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Re: Stocks
« Reply #6620 on: January 25, 2022, 01:31:50 AM »
Wow, the whole market tanked over the past few weeks. Now is when I should be playing options big time.

  Any decent investors to follow in regards to options? Even if I have to pay a few $ to follow?
Michel Edward from  TTG has been amazing!

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #6621 on: January 25, 2022, 10:53:22 AM »
I'm not a technical expert but I had went from $90 to about $73 in the last two weeks or so.
whoa. chesed campaign ?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #6622 on: January 25, 2022, 11:02:17 AM »
whoa. chesed campaign ?
Thankfully likes are still coming, though not as fast as usual either. I may have to mellow on my fandom to Abie Rotenberg if my kids start getting hungry...

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #6623 on: January 30, 2022, 12:13:06 AM »
Michel Edward from  TTG has been amazing!
You're on the $3 subscription? Or the next plan?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #6624 on: January 30, 2022, 04:57:24 PM »

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #6625 on: February 03, 2022, 09:57:33 AM »
Any advice about buying FB now?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #6626 on: February 03, 2022, 03:57:18 PM »
Any advice about buying FB now?
idk but itís really crazy who would have ever thoughÖ.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #6627 on: February 03, 2022, 04:32:13 PM »
Any advice about buying FB now?
If your shooting in the dark or read their earnings report, sure buy the dip otherwise Iíd wait for some resistance and positive moves

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #6628 on: February 03, 2022, 04:33:40 PM »
Wow, the whole market tanked over the past few weeks. Now is when I should be playing options big time.

  Any decent investors to follow in regards to options? Even if I have to pay a few $ to follow?
Heres a piece of advice: never follow anyone, make moves that you yourself understand and believe in.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #6629 on: February 03, 2022, 04:37:30 PM »
$AMZN 👀👀 for a company this size to make such moves is crazy.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #6630 on: February 03, 2022, 05:36:59 PM »
$AMZN 👀👀 for a company this size to make such moves is crazy.
It's up $400 in after hours

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #6631 on: February 03, 2022, 05:48:38 PM »
$AMZN 👀👀 for a company this size to make such moves is crazy.
Many of the big (tech) names have lately been swinging wildly in either direction after earnings. I guess it can be understood a bit; a miss (think NFLX, PYPL, FB) reminds investors that higher rates are coming and it can only get worse. A beat (GOOGL, AMD, AMZN, SNAP) makes them think things are not so bad after all, and this company can manage even in a higher rate environment.

But it just boggles the mind how fickle equity investors are. The whole miss and beat is totaly arbitrary, as the expectations are based on the companys own projections. What is stopping a company from setting the bar low, only to come out and 'beat' expectations and have the stock soar?
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #6632 on: February 03, 2022, 07:14:47 PM »
But it just boggles the mind how fickle equity investors are. The whole miss and beat is totaly arbitrary, as the expectations are based on the companys own projections. What is stopping a company from setting the bar low, only to come out and 'beat' expectations and have the stock soar?

Arenít there also analyst projections that they beat/meet/miss?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #6633 on: February 03, 2022, 08:43:23 PM »
Arenít there also analyst projections that they beat/meet/miss?
It seems that in many, if not most instances, corporate is giving the analysts the raw data for them to formulate the projections.  That's why the whole process seems so skewed...

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #6634 on: February 03, 2022, 11:22:32 PM »
It seems that in many, if not most instances, corporate is giving the analysts the raw data for them to formulate the projections.  That's why the whole process seems so skewed...

You canít have the cake and eat it. If theyíre giving them the data it should be on the mark, if theyíre beating it then they arenít quite giving them the data. Unless youíre suggesting they intentionally give them data that adds up to less than what they actually expect, that would be fraud.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #6635 on: February 04, 2022, 12:02:11 AM »
Go home SNAP, your drunk
#TYH

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #6636 on: February 04, 2022, 12:10:11 AM »
You canít have the cake and eat it. If theyíre giving them the data it should be on the mark, if theyíre beating it then they arenít quite giving them the data. Unless youíre suggesting they intentionally give them data that adds up to less than what they actually expect, that would be fraud.
I wouldn't call it fraud- they may be giving numbers projecting future sales, which are not certain. They can guesstimate numbers on the lower end so that the expectation is low. All I'm saying is that beating or missing projected earnings is just hype. However, real growth YoY would be a more real metric

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #6637 on: February 04, 2022, 08:52:21 AM »
Many of the big (tech) names have lately been swinging wildly in either direction after earnings. I guess it can be understood a bit; a miss (think NFLX, PYPL, FB) reminds investors that higher rates are coming and it can only get worse. A beat (GOOGL, AMD, AMZN, SNAP) makes them think things are not so bad after all, and this company can manage even in a higher rate environment.

But it just boggles the mind how fickle equity investors are. The whole miss and beat is totaly arbitrary, as the expectations are based on the companys own projections. What is stopping a company from setting the bar low, only to come out and 'beat' expectations and have the stock soar?
With blood in the water investors are seeking safe harbors, thatís why you see such big swings. earnings are also based on other market environments and when a company beats itís own expectation from previous quarter to massive growth the street celebrates

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #6638 on: February 04, 2022, 09:01:08 AM »
I wouldn't call it fraud- they may be giving numbers projecting future sales, which are not certain. They can guesstimate numbers on the lower end so that the expectation is low. All I'm saying is that beating or missing projected earnings is just hype. However, real growth YoY would be a more real metric

Analysts are relying on more than just company released data, or at least deciding how to interpret it based on other things they know/assume. They certainly arenít just taking company projections and parroting them back. If you look at the spread of projections by analysts on the street for one companyís earnings, youíll see it can be a pretty wide range.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #6639 on: February 04, 2022, 10:18:38 AM »
I wouldn't call it fraud- they may be giving numbers projecting future sales, which are not certain. They can guesstimate numbers on the lower end so that the expectation is low. All I'm saying is that beating or missing projected earnings is just hype. However, real growth YoY would be a more real metric
Whatever is "expected" is baked into the price. If a company beats leaving investors to believe the future trajectory is better than anticipated, that will push the price up.
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