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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1050 on: February 17, 2015, 11:05:49 PM »

Wow, if I was a stock holder it would be really tough for me to give a $500 target on this stock.
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In his Oct '14 letter he valued the stock at $203, now 4 months later, and a lot of positive stuff happening to AAPL (numbers  & products), he's still at $216,
he could've valued the stock last week at $250 instead of $216 and it would've made perfectly sense (at least as sensible as his $203 target was in Oct.) but he didn't, he sticked to his "just above $200" target, which tells you (or at least me) that he's on to something and he's not just spewing out numbers to push his agenda.
Just my .02

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1051 on: February 17, 2015, 11:40:32 PM »
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In his Oct '14 letter he valued the stock at $203, now 4 months later, and a lot of positive stuff happening to AAPL (numbers  & products), he's still at $216,
he could've valued the stock last week at $250 instead of $216 and it would've made perfectly sense (at least as sensible as his $203 target was in Oct.) but he didn't, he sticked to his "just above $200" target, which tells you (or at least me) that he's on to something and he's not just spewing out numbers to push his agenda.
Just my .02

Lol he's saying that it's worth nearly 700b more than the consensus and you take his words seriously?
He has provided good advice to Tim Cook but don't rely on him for stock advice.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1052 on: February 18, 2015, 12:28:50 AM »

Lol he's saying that it's worth nearly 700b more than the consensus and you take his words seriously?
I'm not saying I agree with his target, I'm saying that if he's just putting out high targets because he "owns the stock" and drives an agenda, he could've put out higher targets and still get away with it.
don't rely on him for stock advice.
I'm not that sure you wanna say that on a guy who's worth $30B by following that same advice you just described as unreliable ...

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1053 on: February 18, 2015, 12:50:53 AM »
I'm not saying I agree with his target, I'm saying that if he's just putting out high targets because he "owns the stock" and drives an agenda, he could've put out higher targets and still get away with it.I'm not that sure you wanna say that on a guy who's worth $30B by following that same advice you just described as unreliable ...

He's only worth something because he didn't listen to the analysts.
And also because he bought when the price was closer to $60, not over double that price.
Last but not least, his bank account size doesn't make his bias any less tolerable.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1054 on: February 18, 2015, 12:57:53 AM »

He's only worth something because he didn't listen to the analysts.
He's not an analyst.
And also because he bought when the price was closer to $60, not over double that price.
Imagine you taking his advice when he first bought the stock...
Last but not least, his bank account size doesn't make his bias any less tolerable.
Bias proven to be accurate, is bias I wanna rely on.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1055 on: February 18, 2015, 07:30:37 AM »
Lol he's saying that it's worth nearly 700b more than the consensus and you take his words seriously?
He has provided good advice to Tim Cook but don't rely on him for stock advice.

I would not have the guts talking like that about him.
check out his stock IEP

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1056 on: February 18, 2015, 11:06:04 AM »

I would not have the guts talking like that about him.
check out his stock IEP
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1057 on: February 18, 2015, 11:36:31 AM »
He's not an analyst.Imagine you taking his advice when he first bought the stock...Bias proven to be accurate, is bias I wanna rely on.

1. Never said he was. My point is that billionaires didn't become rich by copying others.
2. I bought stock earlier than him and at a better price, not sure of your point.
3. Okay, whatever floats your boat.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1058 on: February 19, 2015, 01:15:27 PM »
Hi,
I was just browsing through and thought I'd ask your guys opinion.
Should I contribute to 401k if employer matches 3% regardless of my contribution?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1059 on: February 19, 2015, 02:05:37 PM »
Hi,
I was just browsing through and thought I'd ask your guys opinion.
Should I contribute to 401k if employer matches 3% regardless of my contribution?

as opposed to not saving for retirement or saving for other things?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1060 on: February 19, 2015, 02:30:15 PM »
Hi,
I was just browsing through and thought I'd ask your guys opinion.
Should I contribute to 401k if employer matches 3% regardless of my contribution?
Always contribute to the max of the match.  Free money you are passing up.
After the match amount contribute to an IRA on the side.  After maxing an IRA you can put more in the 401k. You have to run the math if you can do without additional money from your paycheck to determine if any contribution is worth it.  If you need the money and cant set aside even 3% then you should look for a higher paying job.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1061 on: February 19, 2015, 02:37:09 PM »
Always contribute to the max of the match.  Free money you are passing up.
After the match amount contribute to an IRA on the side.  After maxing an IRA you can put more in the 401k. You have to run the math if you can do without additional money from your paycheck to determine if any contribution is worth it.  If you need the money and cant set aside even 3% then you should look for a higher paying job.

its not a match he said he gets the 3% regardless of contribution. He needs to decide if he wants to have the saving automated by putting extra into a 401k or can he do it on his own. Either way if he wants to save more than $5500 a year (ira limit) he should be contributing to his 401k.

Look into a roth vs regular ira/401k.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1062 on: February 19, 2015, 06:03:16 PM »
as opposed to not saving for retirement or saving for other things?
As apposed  to saving with IRA..

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1063 on: February 19, 2015, 06:07:36 PM »
its not a match he said he gets the 3% regardless of contribution. He needs to decide if he wants to have the saving automated by putting extra into a 401k or can he do it on his own. Either way if he wants to save more than $5500 a year (ira limit) he should be contributing to his 401k.

Look into a roth vs regular ira/401k.
Exactly. So I stop contributing to 401k, Until I fill up IRA  limit. Where would you recommend opening IRA?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1064 on: February 19, 2015, 06:11:51 PM »
its not a match he said he gets the 3% regardless of contribution. He needs to decide if he wants to have the saving automated by putting extra into a 401k or can he do it on his own. Either way if he wants to save more than $5500 a year (ira limit) he should be contributing to his 401k.

Look into a roth vs regular ira/401k.
To be clear there is no other benifit besides for convenience , in contributing to 401k if there is no match?