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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1180 on: June 01, 2015, 12:40:27 PM »
If you call plunking down money in companies that can go bankrupt in the next few days -"investing"- I hear.
It's called speculating. 

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1181 on: June 01, 2015, 10:43:33 PM »
moving this here. can anyone explain what deferred tax assets could have to do with the deal?


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Responding to speculation in the card industry that Citigroup gave too much to Costco in negotiations earlier, Corbat said the deal is "without a doubt accretive" to shareholders and would be even if Citigroup did not have deferred tax assets it can use to shelter income from taxes.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1182 on: June 01, 2015, 10:51:28 PM »
moving this here. can anyone explain what deferred tax assets could have to do with the deal?
Citi has $50B or so of deferred tax losses (which I think start to expire soon.)

So that puts then at a 35% (or whatever their effective tax rate is) advantage over Amex or anyone else.

Therefore they can drop their interchange fees so low that Amex would be losing money after taxes if they would give Costco the same rate. (Or at least it wouldn't be worthwhile.)

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1183 on: June 01, 2015, 11:01:34 PM »
thanks,

i guess businesses can't carry deferred tax losses forever?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1184 on: June 01, 2015, 11:07:38 PM »
They changed the law around two years ago, not sure if Citis money gets grandfathered in or not.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1185 on: June 01, 2015, 11:09:44 PM »
It's called speculating.

I know that, I was being sarcastic.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1186 on: June 08, 2015, 07:49:35 PM »
TSLA - hold or sell?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1187 on: June 08, 2015, 08:12:52 PM »
TSLA - hold or sell?
I've been debating that all day but I still think it has room to go higher when the Model X starts deliveries so I think i'll wait a bit

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1188 on: June 08, 2015, 09:07:10 PM »
Same here I'm going to hold. Do you think its crazy that tsla has a 31 Billion dollar market cap?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1189 on: June 08, 2015, 10:43:27 PM »
Same here I'm going to hold. Do you think its crazy that tsla has a 31 Billion dollar market cap?
Tesla IS crazy. From Elon to its stock.
I'm not who you think I am.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1190 on: June 08, 2015, 11:24:32 PM »
Tesla IS crazy. From Elon to its stock.
Crazy in a GENIUS way  :P

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1191 on: June 08, 2015, 11:26:16 PM »
Crazy in a GENIUS way 
Crazy as in its stock value and crazy as in he told his wife to stop crying over spilled milk... in reference to his dead 10 week old son!
I'm not who you think I am.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1192 on: June 08, 2015, 11:27:15 PM »
Crazy in a GENIUS way 
And from your profile it looks like your a huge fan of tesla.
I'm not who you think I am.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1193 on: June 08, 2015, 11:31:47 PM »
Crazy as in its stock value and crazy as in he told his wife to stop crying over spilled milk... in reference to his dead 10 week old son!

Or how about crazy like the man he named his company after...
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1194 on: June 09, 2015, 12:12:32 AM »
Crazy as in its stock value and crazy as in he told his wife to stop crying over spilled milk... in reference to his dead 10 week old son!
never heard that before but if its true thats sick!
where did you see it?
And from your profile it looks like your a huge fan of tesla.
Yup
Or how about crazy like the man he named his company after...
who was a great man IMO

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1195 on: June 09, 2015, 12:49:58 AM »


never heard that before but if its true thats sick!
where did you see it?

 "She [his wife]recounted the story of how he was unfeeling after their first child died of SIDS and called her "emotionally manipulative" while she was going through the grieving process."
I'm not who you think I am.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1197 on: June 15, 2015, 10:26:32 PM »

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-11/who-just-dumped-over-100-million-aapl
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An ode to the new Apple clock

With iCon now dumping his stock

The countdown is on

To the end of his con

When fanboys are in for a shock


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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1198 on: June 15, 2015, 10:33:59 PM »

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-11/who-just-dumped-over-100-million-aapl

i dont recall MSFT having $178 Billion cash on hand ! yes you can say that again BILLION spelled with a B.
i dont recall MSFT generating $18 B profit in one quarter.
i dont recall MSFT having costumer camping out 24hours outside the store to grab the newest phones or gadgets.
this list can go on and on.

Apple is not just a technology company selling electronics and software.
im not here to pump the company but this is one of those stocks that people do feel comfortable putting all eggs in one basket.

what im saying, $178 Billion doesnt evaporate overnight.
 Icahn as an insider knows more then us, if he feels comfortable giving a $200+ Target Price im comfortable with that too. i will take $175 any day :-)


"VC Jason Calcanis predicts Apple will buy Tesla within 18 months, citing (among other things) Tesla's head-start in EV development, touchscreen UI investments, and plans for a battery gigafactory that could also benefit other Apple products. Elon Musk reportedly met with Apple M&A execs back in 2013." quote from today in Seeking Alpha

Just Saying :

 TSLA market value is $25.50 Billion
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1199 on: June 15, 2015, 10:50:25 PM »


If I Icahn sells, the stock will take a more-than-a-short-term hit, it's a no brainer! (no pun intended).
If a loving father slaps his son on national TV, you know that son screwed up, big time.
I hope and pray that sell off wasn't iChan, I'm seriously considering taking a short position a day or two before his Q2 positions are publicized.