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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1460 on: December 29, 2015, 04:00:30 PM »

Actually I am a real N00b. It was the first trade for me in my life so coming out ahead with $400 is nice..
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1461 on: December 29, 2015, 04:30:38 PM »
Actually I am a real N00b. It was the first trade for me in my life so coming out ahead with $400 is nice..

If your still new to this, I would suggest staying with safer bets.
In any short span of time any stock could easily swing 5-10% in any direction, regardless of the long term direction of the stock.
Speculating can be fun and profitable in a bull market, but trading frequently has fees that cut out a big chunk of profits, and when the bear market hits, speculative stocks usually drop faster and harder than others (which can easily erase all the gains you've ever made, and then some more.)

There are lots of safer investments right now that you can lock up long term, and profit heck of a lot more than 6%.

Anyways, enjoy the cash you made so far, hopefully you make a lot more.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1462 on: December 29, 2015, 04:59:43 PM »
Actually I am a real N00b. It was the first trade for me in my life so coming out ahead with $400 is nice..
FYI
The only thing I know is that I don't loss by earning money in stocks (sounds strange, huh?),

My accountant told me some people could earn a few thousand bucks but they don't know that they're losing out on some tax credits which is grater then what they earned, but by me that's not the case so I shouldn't worry about it, that's all I know...


i wish thats the case by me.  i lost many tax credit for earning a few hundred bucks!

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1463 on: December 29, 2015, 05:04:00 PM »
If your still new to this, I would suggest staying with safer bets.
In any short span of time any stock could easily swing 5-10% in any direction, regardless of the long term direction of the stock.
Speculating can be fun and profitable in a bull market, but trading frequently has fees that cut out a big chunk of profits, and when the bear market hits, speculative stocks usually drop faster and harder than others (which can easily erase all the gains you've ever made, and then some more.)

There are lots of safer investments right now that you can lock up long term, and profit heck of a lot more than 6%.

Anyways, enjoy the cash you made so far, hopefully you make a lot more.
any suggestions for  safe long term stocks to buy now?

TIA

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1464 on: December 29, 2015, 05:25:56 PM »
Will NRX go back up like it did last new year?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1465 on: December 29, 2015, 06:08:28 PM »
any suggestions for  safe long term stocks to buy now?

TIA

I like financials like C WFC AXP COF
BRK.B
Tech- INTC maybe AAPL and CHL
WMT
ALK- near its all time high, but still at just 13p/e. I bought at all time high a few years ago and it has done really, really well.
Some other stocks that look great but I didn't have time to research further:
JNJ MMM CAT

Note:
I am not an expert, these are just stocks that I have either invested in or considering to invest in.
They usually have low P/E, have good/great book value per share, and a sustainable dividend (which I enroll in a drip). While I do feel good about my picks in the long run, it would be best to buy like 5-6 of them to assure you are diversified and mitigate the risk of one going bad. A proven investing method for beginners is to invest a set amount in SPY every month. Most investors don't beat the S&P, so if you could match the S&P's returns over a long period of time you will probably do pretty well.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1466 on: December 29, 2015, 08:54:08 PM »
any suggestions for  safe long term stocks to buy now?

TIA
There's no such thing as fully safe.  Always realize that stock prices can change in a day. 
Longer term.  I look for stocks that I understand what they do and how they make money. Among other factors.  Nice if they have dividends that they've increased over time (dividend aristocrats)
NKE- nike.  SBUX- starbucks. RAI-renolds. COST-costco. HD-home depot.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1467 on: December 29, 2015, 09:18:37 PM »
I would go with MSFT for a long term stock. They are big in cloud computing which is gonna (if its not already) be the future - no need for hardware- which is very low maintenance. Meaning the profits can be great. criticism accepted ;)

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1468 on: December 29, 2015, 09:22:46 PM »
I would go with MSFT for a long term stock. They are big in cloud computing which is gonna (if its not already) be the future - no need for hardware- which is very low maintenance. Meaning the profits can be great. criticism accepted ;)

I'm not sure you understand how cloud computing works,
but their is a crap load of hardware that Microsoft needs to constantly purchase and maintain.

I don't know why people wait til a stock doubles before deciding to purchase.
It was a great buy for me at $31- at $56 and 37 p/e I would pass.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1469 on: December 29, 2015, 10:11:25 PM »
I'm not sure you understand how cloud computing works,
but their is a crap load of hardware that Microsoft needs to constantly purchase and maintain.

I don't know why people wait til a stock doubles before deciding to purchase.
It was a great buy for me at $31- at $56 and 37 p/e I would pass.
yes i understand but that cost doesnt come near salaries etc.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1470 on: December 29, 2015, 10:45:38 PM »
yes i understand but that cost doesnt come near salaries etc.

I don't think you understand.

The "Cloud" is a commodity.
There are many companies operating in this space.
They buy hard drives and rent it out to other companies.
They compete on price, so it's not like Microsoft can say "wow we have a cloud that costs us $1b to maintain, let's charge $10b!".

Theres no easy money in cloud technologies.
Microsoft is paying boatloads of engineers, boatloads of money.

Basically, it's not as simple as you make it sound.
You asked for criticism, here you have it.


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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1471 on: December 29, 2015, 11:09:24 PM »
I don't think you understand.

The "Cloud" is a commodity.
There are many companies operating in this space.
They buy hard drives and rent it out to other companies.
They compete on price, so it's not like Microsoft can say "wow we have a cloud that costs us $1b to maintain, let's charge $10b!".

Theres no easy money in cloud technologies.
Microsoft is paying boatloads of engineers, boatloads of money.

Basically, it's not as simple as you make it sound.
You asked for criticism, here you have it.


I actually appreciate criticism. That's the only way one can think critically.
But I don't think it's as bad as you make it sound either.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1472 on: December 30, 2015, 01:53:28 AM »
I actually appreciate criticism. That's the only way one can think critically.
But I don't think it's as bad as you make it sound either.

I actually believe that Microsoft will do well with their cloud services.
What I was criticizing was the oversimplified opinion you originally posted.
Cloud will be very big but I don't think it will be an easy battle for any of the winners.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1473 on: December 30, 2015, 06:31:27 AM »
Thanks for all your opinions!
I think this is what this thread was originally made for...

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1474 on: December 30, 2015, 07:43:09 AM »
What's the opinions on tesla and solar city ?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1475 on: December 30, 2015, 07:52:38 PM »
What's the opinions on tesla and solar city ?
wouldn't go into TSLA . overvalued IMHO

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1476 on: December 30, 2015, 07:55:17 PM »
so what do you guys think about oil stocks? a bit high risk but i personally invested in a few. i know that there might be a drop but long term oil will probably go back up. Even if not to its former price but still can make a good return

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1477 on: December 30, 2015, 08:46:07 PM »
so what do you guys think about oil stocks? a bit high risk but i personally invested in a few. i know that there might be a drop but long term oil will probably go back up. Even if not to its former price but still can make a good return
I think very long term.  And probably not to its former levels.
Fracking is increasing supply.  The next administration may allow fracking on federal land, which would increase supply more.
But demand will increase. If the price of oil is too low, it doesn't pay for small companies to frack, so some wells will remain unpumped.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1478 on: December 30, 2015, 09:04:06 PM »
so what do you guys think about oil stocks? a bit high risk but i personally invested in a few. i know that there might be a drop but long term oil will probably go back up. Even if not to its former price but still can make a good return
A guy just told me to invest in ORIG.

Is that what you're talking about? Do people agree with what my friend advised me?

He bought like 30k shares in HQCL when it was like 12 and sold 10k last week when it was 27......

He is still holding 20k shares, he says it will still go back up...
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1479 on: December 30, 2015, 09:18:50 PM »
A guy just told me to invest in ORIG.

Is that what you're talking about? Do people agree with what my friend advised me?

He bought like 30k shares in HQCL when it was like 12 and sold 10k last week when it was 27......

He is still holding 20k shares, he says it will still go back up...
Don't buy ORIG

http://www.streetinsider.com/dr/news.php?id=11150701

With oil so cheap who needs risky offshore drilling anyway?