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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1640 on: March 04, 2016, 12:39:37 PM »
Ye oil and energy are massively up !!

What's the reason for that ?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1641 on: March 04, 2016, 12:49:01 PM »
finally broke even thanks to $TSLA (bought at 142 a couple of weeks ago) and $AAPL the last week

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1642 on: March 04, 2016, 12:53:29 PM »


finally broke even thanks to $TSLA (bought at 142 a couple of weeks ago)
Good for you. That was a good buy
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1643 on: March 04, 2016, 01:23:29 PM »
+1 my oil stock is up 90% the last 5 days but not needs a long way to go before back to even or even a profit

I actually just broke even a couple hours ago. I haven't put in a lot but over the last few weeks it went down tremendously and I lost big time. But the last few days...

See: Ray Dalio On How You Can Win in the Market http://www.bloomberg.com/api/embed/iframe?id=oyYJueClRfWg_bBgF6nYdA which is summarized here: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-03/ray-dalio-tells-ordinary-investors-dont-trade-against-pros-us-you-will-lose-own-gold

And להבדיל see: http://www.chabad.org/therebbe/letters/default_cdo/aid/821810/jewish/On-Investing-in-Stocks.htm where the following quote appears: "It is particularly objectionable because of the anxiety and nervous strain that it creates in some people. Moreover, in these unsettled days, there is too great an element of speculation involved in the Stock Exchange. It is surely possible to find some more fitting investment opportunities, if an investment is contemplated, than the kind of thing which sends the investor scurrying for the first edition of the Stock Exchange report in the morning newspaper."

And http://www.collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=625

If the pros are saying one could expect 4% return in stocks, and that with volatility and risk (i.e. the time you might need or want your money, might just be the time it is down), I don't think there is sufficient risk premium to assets that can return 2%-3%, or possibly even 4% with no downside risk (the recent ChasunaFund from Allstate was an anomaly where one was able to GUARANTEE returns in excess of 4% - a total no-brainer to me, thankfully was able to get in).

There are only two ways I see one putting money into stocks right now:
  • Small amounts of money just for the thrill, similar to playing in a casino, to the extent that you are aware that this is what you are doing, and can expect to lose everything
  • A pro doing this full time

The time to get into stocks/"the market" will come, when stocks are really hated and P/Es are below 10, until then, the focus should be preservation of capital, and if you can get modest risk free returns, all the better.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1644 on: March 04, 2016, 01:31:15 PM »
you have 0 clue mine or Adam101 financial situation or inventing timeline or $ amount involved in the above mentioned situations...

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1645 on: March 04, 2016, 02:05:17 PM »
you have 0 clue mine or Adam101 financial situation or inventing timeline or $ amount involved in the above mentioned situations...
That's true. Never claimed to know any of the above, just made some observations and posted some opinions.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1646 on: March 04, 2016, 02:07:21 PM »
Up 35%
Entered UWTI  a couple days ago
From the research I did, I pulled out of uwti, I hear it's very risky.. Sort of a gamble

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1647 on: March 04, 2016, 02:49:05 PM »
For all you guys long and holding, I would say take profits now because the next couple of days they might be coming down. Oil, energy, bios, steel etc.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1648 on: March 04, 2016, 03:01:27 PM »
The market was nicer 2 hours ago..

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1649 on: March 04, 2016, 03:03:26 PM »
For all you guys long and holding, I would say take profits some money off the table now because the next couple of days they might be coming down. Oil, energy, bios, steel etc.
FTFY
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1650 on: March 04, 2016, 04:05:10 PM »
Feeling better now?
Wow. Thanks.... ORIG is up from .70 a week ago to 1.30 how nice...

Still, I bought at 1.54... Should I run out and take a small lose? Or it will go up even more?
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1651 on: March 04, 2016, 04:07:39 PM »
Still, I bought at 1.54... Should I run out and take a small lose? Or it will go up even more?
The million (I wish) dollar question...

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1652 on: March 04, 2016, 04:45:37 PM »
Wow. Thanks.... ORIG is up from .70 a week ago to 1.30 how nice...

Still, I bought at 1.54... Should I run out and take a small lose? Or it will go up even more?
You should ask yourself "what was I thinking when I originally bought?" If your original reason (investment thesis) is still valid, stay in. Otherwise, bail out.

This is not specific to ORIG, but for any stock one owns.

It could help to actually keep track not only of your entry dates and prices, but also take note of WHY you bought, what were you thinking.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1653 on: March 05, 2016, 09:12:58 PM »
From the research I did, I pulled out of uwti, I hear it's very risky.. Sort of a gamble
yep. definitely i "play' with that stock some times. yes i only do it with money i'm willing to play with

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1654 on: March 06, 2016, 01:51:13 PM »
Ive been using robinhood and I have a few stocks that I'm trying to buy but it's not on robin hood for example "LOGX" and "ECOP" do as anyone have any recommendations for a cheap and affordable and hassle free place to use to buy these stocks? I'm not planning on buying a large volume.... Tia!
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1655 on: March 06, 2016, 01:52:47 PM »
Ive been using robinhood and I have a few stocks that I'm trying to buy but it's not on robin hood for example "LOGX" and "ECOP" do as anyone have any recommendations for a cheap and affordable and hassle free place to use to buy these stocks? I'm not planning on buying a large volume.... Tia!
start with Fidelity. They give free trades when you sign up and bonus free trades when you refer others. No minimum.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1656 on: March 06, 2016, 01:52:56 PM »
Ive been using robinhood and I have a few stocks that I'm trying to buy but it's not on robin hood for example "LOGX" and "ECOP" do as anyone have any recommendations for a cheap and affordable and hassle free place to use to buy these stocks? I'm not planning on buying a large volume.... Tia!
LOGX looks delisted. That might be the issue
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1657 on: March 06, 2016, 02:13:39 PM »
I had a penny stock that was delisted. Untradable now on Robin Hood. How do I get my equity back?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1658 on: March 06, 2016, 02:14:50 PM »
Ive been using robinhood and I have a few stocks that I'm trying to buy but it's not on robin hood for example "LOGX" and "ECOP" do as anyone have any recommendations for a cheap and affordable and hassle free place to use to buy gamble with these stocks? I'm not planning on buying a large volume.... Tia!
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1659 on: March 06, 2016, 02:20:44 PM »
I had a penny stock that was delisted. Untradable now on Robin Hood. How do I get my equity back?
Are you sure you have any equity? Did you check the company balance sheet?

If indeed there's equity there, and it's more than a few dollars, you might be able to redeem, otherwise it's just like money lost at a Casino or Lottery.

IME Schwab doesn't charge more for Pink Slips than any other trades (many brokers do charge extra).
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