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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3000 on: March 04, 2018, 03:49:18 PM »
I'm pretty sure he meant that it's easy to lose money quickly, hence "make it in to millions." Start with Bs and lose lots quickly till you"re left with Ms.
That is how I understood it too. On that I asked how one can do that. If you know how to easily lose that much money you should be able to find a financial instument to bet the opposite and make a nice profit.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3001 on: March 04, 2018, 03:50:53 PM »
That is how I understood it too. On that I asked how one can do that. If you know how to easily lose that much money you should be able to find a financial instument to bet the opposite and make a nice profit.
It's not about the instrument, it's about the strategy. Buy high and sell low, is guaranteed to generate loses.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3002 on: March 04, 2018, 03:53:34 PM »
It's not about the instrument, it's about the strategy. Buy high and sell low, is guaranteed to generate loses.
The same way buy low and sell high is guaranteed to generate profits?
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3003 on: March 04, 2018, 03:54:11 PM »
The same way buy low and sell high is guaranteed to generate profits?
Correct.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3004 on: March 04, 2018, 04:19:37 PM »
Ok now that I know what not to do, what should I be doing, what platform and what company that's not to risky and yields high return?
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3005 on: March 04, 2018, 04:25:47 PM »
Correct.
What percentage of those employing such a strategy have realized profits of any random time period?
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3006 on: March 04, 2018, 05:10:52 PM »

What percentage of those employing such a strategy have realized profits of any random time period?
100%

It is mathematically proven that if one only buys low and only sells high(er) a profit will be generated (unless they are foolish enough not to add transaction costs to buy price and subtract them from sell proceeds).
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3007 on: March 04, 2018, 05:27:29 PM »
100%

It is mathematically proven that if one only buys low and only sells high(er) a profit will be generated (unless they are foolish enough not to add transaction costs to buy price and subtract them from sell proceeds).
Only if you exclude unrealized gains and losses
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Stocks
« Reply #3008 on: March 04, 2018, 07:46:19 PM »
Ok now that I know what not to do, what should I be doing, what platform and what company that's not to risky and yields high return?
High return as in —>
(how to make million in 5 minutes....)?
?, If yes, you’re back to square one

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3009 on: March 04, 2018, 09:55:45 PM »
Oy, so much commentary on starting with a lot and making it a little. Again, I will postulate my trading theory...If you, as an individual, believe that you can beat a large trading firm's HFT algorithm, using some online or run of the mill trading platform, you can easily make millions, out of billions. The market is rigged against the small trader. You want to make money long term, track the S&P and dont trade. 
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3010 on: March 04, 2018, 11:18:38 PM »
What percentage of those employing such a strategy have realized profits of any random time period?
.001 and the other 99.99 of those buying low and selling high, end up buying high and selling low :'(.
Just stick with dollar cost averaging by continuing to plunge in money in the market at ANY given time in an S & P 500 index fund and you are GURANTEED with positive results over any 5-10 yr period.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3011 on: March 04, 2018, 11:44:08 PM »
.001 and the other 99.99 of those buying low and selling high, end up buying high and selling low :'(.
Just stick with dollar cost averaging by continuing to plunge in money in the market at ANY given time in an S & P 500 index fund and you are GURANTEED with positive results over any 5-10 yr period.
Other than 10 year perdiods ending late 2008-late 2010 or the late 1930s as well as many 5 year periods.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3012 on: March 08, 2018, 09:48:25 AM »
Anyone know of reasons why Ray Dalio's economic theory may be wrong and/or why his current outlook may not apply now or in the near future?

Thanks
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3013 on: March 08, 2018, 01:22:28 PM »
.001 and the other 99.99 of those buying low and selling high, end up buying high and selling low :'(.
Just stick with dollar cost averaging by continuing to plunge in money in the market at ANY given time in an S & P 500 index fund and you are GURANTEED with positive results over any 5-10 yr period.
Who is providing the Guarantee?
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3014 on: March 08, 2018, 02:30:35 PM »
Who is providing the Guarantee?
The History over the past 150 years

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3015 on: March 08, 2018, 02:40:08 PM »
The History over the past 150 years
Other than 10 year perdiods ending late 2008-late 2010 or the late 1930s as well as many 5 year periods.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3016 on: March 08, 2018, 02:58:00 PM »

Thats why you do dollar cost avareging and spread your deposits over 20-30 months

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3017 on: March 08, 2018, 03:14:03 PM »
Thats why you do dollar cost avareging and spread your deposits over 20-30 months
That would not help for when there were more than 2 consecutive years of negative ten year returns. That DID happen.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3018 on: March 08, 2018, 07:49:13 PM »
That would not help for when there were more than 2 consecutive years of negative ten year returns. That DID happen.
I believe you wanted to write that DIDN'T happened
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3019 on: March 08, 2018, 07:55:08 PM »
I believe you wanted to write that DIDN'T happened
Nope. It did happen that there were consecutive years with negative five and ten year returns. How about you show us some numbers to back up your claims.
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