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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3540 on: April 02, 2019, 12:08:57 AM »
Itís a great stock, but if you really Iíll help you out, that company is Square, and you shouldnít have a position in PayPal before checking them out.. (Iím long SQ since $50 and happen to like them over PYPL)

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3541 on: April 02, 2019, 01:19:19 AM »
Care to share your thought process?
To be honest, with IPOs it is very hard for me to know when to buy or not , so I do not touch them because there is no way to look at a chart and use a technical system since there is not enough trading data.  I wait till the stock has been trading at least for several weeks. And using fundamental analysis you can never guess where the stock will go in the short term.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3542 on: April 02, 2019, 07:42:07 AM »
To be honest, with IPOs it is very hard for me to know when to buy or not , so I do not touch them because there is no way to look at a chart and use a technical system since there is not enough trading data.  I wait till the stock has been trading at least for several weeks. And using fundamental analysis you can never guess where the stock will go in the short term.

From a fundamentals stand point you canít figure out how to value a company? How come? Your right about short term but thatís not what fundamentals are necessarily about...

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3543 on: April 02, 2019, 08:43:42 AM »
From a fundamentals stand point you canít figure out how to value a company? How come? Your right about short term but thatís not what fundamentals are necessarily about...
@ludmila  is a trader, not an investor.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3544 on: April 02, 2019, 08:44:20 AM »
Itís a great stock, but if you really Iíll help you out, that company is Square, and you shouldnít have a position in PayPal before checking them out.. (Iím long SQ since $50 and happen to like them over PYPL)

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3545 on: April 02, 2019, 08:53:03 AM »
@ludmila  is a trader, not an investor.

So when are fundamentals ever used for short term trades?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3546 on: April 02, 2019, 08:56:26 AM »
So when are fundamentals ever used for short term trades?
Who said they are?

ETA: By inside traders.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3547 on: April 02, 2019, 10:39:44 AM »
To be honest, with IPOs it is very hard for me to know when to buy or not , so I do not touch them because there is no way to look at a chart and use a technical system since there is not enough trading data.  I wait till the stock has been trading at least for several weeks. And using fundamental analysis you can never guess where the stock will go in the short term.
Who said they are?


Was responding to reference made about using for IPO.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3548 on: April 02, 2019, 11:39:10 AM »
Was responding to reference made about using for IPO.

IMHO, the only reason to buy an IPO is if you believe in the long term growth of the company and you think it is fairly valued.  People buying IPOs for short term are likely gambling.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3549 on: April 02, 2019, 09:34:48 PM »
I really like payapl stock. They are so easy to use, offer an extra layer of security and customer protection. I also see them on more and more websites every day. I can not think of a competitor that has the equal benefits and near equal market penetration.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3550 on: April 02, 2019, 10:59:12 PM »
From a fundamentals stand point you canít figure out how to value a company? How come? Your right about short term but thatís not what fundamentals are necessarily about...
Yes I can ,so can every one else, that is the problem with using fundamentals for short or intermediate term, a stock or commodity can go much much lower or higher and a trader or investor might become insolvent before the price goes your way. That is why I only trade short to intermediate term using charts and technicals. As an e.g Warren Buffet said months ago he bought KHC , it has lost half its value since, but years from now he can be proven right, but I posted then that I will not touch it here .
I think the best trading or  investing method is one where you combine fundamentals with technicals and sentiment indicators.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3551 on: April 02, 2019, 11:06:47 PM »
@ludmila  is a trader, not an investor.
Thanks. Trader Vic always said the most money is made trading the intermediate trend, in the long term we are all dead.  So if I go long or short a stock, futures contract or Forex, and my trade is successful,  I can make huge profits in days, more than an investor will or will not make in a year, then i look for the next trade. Last week I shorted 3 futures palladium contracts and I stayed in the trade for 3 days and palladium lost over $200 in 2 days, over a $20000  profit per contract. 
Today I went long bit coin futures , they are up like a $1000 in a 24 hour period, now over $5000 , I am about to sell and get out since I am not a believer .
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3552 on: April 02, 2019, 11:08:22 PM »
So when are fundamentals ever used for short term trades?
Not much benefit, since all the fundamentals, except inside info, is already reflected in the price .
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3553 on: April 02, 2019, 11:37:50 PM »
Not much benefit, since all the fundamentals, except inside info, is already reflected in the price .

EMT is hot garbage. Stocks are overvalued and undervalued all the time, for a variety of reasons.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3554 on: April 02, 2019, 11:38:46 PM »
Thanks. Trader Vic always said the most money is made trading the intermediate trend, in the long term we are all dead.  So if I go long or short a stock, futures contract or Forex, and my trade is successful, many time I can make huge profits in days, more than an investor will or will not make in a year, then i look for the next trade. Last week I shorted 3 futures palladium contracts and I stayed in the trade for 3 days and palladium lost over $200 in 2 days, over a $20000  profit per contract. 
Today I went long bit coin futures , they are up like a $1000 in a 24 hour period, now over $5000 , I am about to sell and get out since I am not a believer .

care to share the trades that weren't profitable?