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Re: Stocks
« Reply #7440 on: January 25, 2023, 06:55:10 PM »
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #7441 on: January 25, 2023, 07:15:58 PM »
I wasn't around this morning so I still have mine. It's going for about $1.20-$1.28 now. Should I dump or is there a solid chance of it continuing to rise?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #7442 on: January 26, 2023, 08:54:46 AM »
I am looking to invest in ETF's but the one's that i am looking all seem to have had a upward streak in the last 2 weeks which would seem like it's not the best time to go in now. Are there any suggestions as to what is a good option?
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #7443 on: January 26, 2023, 09:59:23 AM »
I am looking to invest in ETF's but the one's that i am looking all seem to have had a upward streak in the last 2 weeks which would seem like it's not the best time to go in now. Are there any suggestions as to what is a good option?

What kind of ETFs are you looking at? Something straightforward, like an S&P 500, or something more specific/exotic?

As a general rule, if you think a stock/fund is a good investment, the fact that it's going up is not necessarily a reason not to buy - you may want to dollar-cost average, meaning putting a set amount of money in every week/month, no matter where the asset is holding or what it's doing.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #7444 on: January 26, 2023, 10:06:23 AM »
I am looking to invest in ETF's but the one's that i am looking all seem to have had a upward streak in the last 2 weeks which would seem like it's not the best time to go in now. Are there any suggestions as to what is a good option?

Timing the market is a fool's game.

What you can some people do to smooth out the ups and downs of the market is to do "dollar cost averaging." Where you put a set % of your funds into the ETF at a set intervals. It can be 25% of your money on the first of the month, or 10% every Wednesday. Even as short at 20% every day for one work week. It would depend on how fast you want to invest your whole pot. 401ks kinda already do this because they invest x% of your paycheck every pay period.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #7445 on: January 26, 2023, 11:14:39 AM »
What kind of ETFs are you looking at? Something straightforward, like an S&P 500, or something more specific/exotic?

As a general rule, if you think a stock/fund is a good investment, the fact that it's going up is not necessarily a reason not to buy - you may want to dollar-cost average, meaning putting a set amount of money in every week/month, no matter where the asset is holding or what it's doing.
Something straightforward, like an S&P 500. However, these don't only go up so isn't the timing key?
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #7446 on: January 26, 2023, 11:16:41 AM »
Something straightforward, like an S&P 500. However, these don't only go up so isn't the timing key?
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Time In the market beats timing the market
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #7447 on: January 26, 2023, 11:19:27 AM »
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Time In the market beats timing the market
(unless you have a crystal ball, like @ckmk47)

*Money is made when you buy for a good price (not an opinion on the market or timing). AKA the time for greed is when there's blood on the streets.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #7448 on: January 26, 2023, 11:34:28 AM »
Antone signed up to the Fool.com stock advisor? Is it worth it?
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #7449 on: January 26, 2023, 12:11:18 PM »
Antone signed up to the Fool.com stock advisor? Is it worth it?
Not all all worth it IMO. I don't spend on any such service but in the past I've been tempted to pay for SA premium. That's the only one I would pay for.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #7450 on: January 26, 2023, 12:50:25 PM »
Something straightforward, like an S&P 500. However, these don't only go up so isn't the timing key?

If there was a way to truly figure out the timing, anyone could easily make millions in a short amount of time. People invest in an S&P 500 with the belief that over time, it will increase in value, despite the ups and downs.

Not buying because it's going up can easily be a mistake if it continues to go up. As Exgingi said, you're buying because you believe that this is an asset you believe will grow. (I think that was his point, feel free to correct/elaborate)

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #7451 on: January 27, 2023, 06:48:52 AM »
If there was a way to truly figure out the timing, anyone could easily make millions in a short amount of time. People invest in an S&P 500 with the belief that over time, it will increase in value, despite the ups and downs.

Not buying because it's going up can easily be a mistake if it continues to go up. As Exgingi said, you're buying because you believe that this is an asset you believe will grow. (I think that was his point, feel free to correct/elaborate)
True, but if the S&P always grows then it would explode so my point is that theres ups and downs to everything. If you look at the charts it isn't straight growth which is why a ETF like vanguard S&P 500 is only trading at $370 which indicates that it isn't such a asset because over the last 2 years this is where its been. However if i had bought in during the drops then it would be of value.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #7452 on: January 27, 2023, 07:51:05 AM »
True, but if the S&P always grows then it would explode so my point is that theres ups and downs to everything. If you look at the charts it isn't straight growth which is why a ETF like vanguard S&P 500 is only trading at $370 which indicates that it isn't such a asset because over the last 2 years this is where its been. However if i had bought in during the drops then it would be of value.

Look at the 10 year charts over practically any period in time
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #7453 on: January 27, 2023, 08:15:48 AM »
True, but if the S&P always grows then it would explode so my point is that theres ups and downs to everything. If you look at the charts it isn't straight growth which is why a ETF like vanguard S&P 500 is only trading at $370 which indicates that it isn't such a asset because over the last 2 years this is where its been. However if i had bought in during the drops then it would be of value.

Markets can be irrational longer than you or I can remain solvent.

It is true that excellent timing can make for outstanding results. There are studies about the 10 year returns depending on P/E at starting point. If valuations are irrationally high, it might be time to avoid, but patience is required. In the past decade+ that was extremely hard as cash earned nothing. For the first time in quite a few years one can earn ~4% on idle cash. Inversely, companies that need to borrow are paying a lot more for the borrowing.

I am not making any statement or opinion regarding current valuations or timing. Just explaining how things work.

See for example (found using Google search) https://observationsandnotes.blogspot.com/2011/01/start-pe-10-year-stock-market-return.html

Following chart is from early 2020 (or maybe 2019).



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Re: Stocks
« Reply #7454 on: January 28, 2023, 12:33:50 PM »
Look at the 10 year charts over practically any period in time
10 years for a return is a long time...
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #7455 on: January 28, 2023, 01:24:58 PM »
Antone signed up to the Fool.com stock advisor? Is it worth it?
When do they release their picks? I am thinking of trying it out with the 30 day money back guarantee.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #7456 on: January 28, 2023, 08:34:56 PM »
Antone signed up to the Fool.com stock advisor? Is it worth it?
Plain Garbage, don't ever solely listen to others for advice,. you should fully understand and be confident in what you invest in.
Fool.com for example will always try to reason and know exactly why a stock went up for a day or went down.
For example check out yahoo finance and look for popular tickers such as nio,
every day a reason why it's up or down.
while the only thing the smartest investors will tell you for sure is if it went up the reason is because there were more buyers than sellers period.
it's just a ploy they use to get clicks and get uneducated investor who has been losing in a stock to get hooked

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #7457 on: January 28, 2023, 08:51:19 PM »
10 years for a return is a long time...

When do they release their picks? I am thinking of trying it out with the 30 day money back guarantee.

Based on your posts I think you could benefit from

See Rich Man Poor Man by Richard Russel.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #7458 on: January 29, 2023, 02:20:35 PM »
Antone signed up to the Fool.com stock advisor? Is it worth it?
Waste of money.
but in the past I've been tempted to pay for SA premium. That's the only one I would pay for.
Even bigger waste of money

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #7459 on: January 29, 2023, 03:11:13 PM »
Anyone pay for services from Benzinga?