Author Topic: Stocks  (Read 1179187 times)

Offline Ephraimh

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Oct 2013
  • Posts: 1526
  • Total likes: 64
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
    • View Profile
  • Location: nyc
Stocks
« Reply #440 on: June 09, 2014, 01:16:13 PM »
The stock costs the same as it did yesterday. The split is immaterial
$AAPL was always 'cheap' even when its stock price was 'expensive' considering the stock trades at 13 times earnings estimates for next fiscal yr, so now that the stock price is cheap too, the stock has huge potential. IMveryHO.

Offline Centro

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: May 2012
  • Posts: 2935
  • Total likes: 8
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 33
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Stocks
« Reply #441 on: June 09, 2014, 01:30:18 PM »
$AAPL was always 'cheap' even when its stock price was 'expensive' considering the stock trades at 13 times earnings estimates for next fiscal yr, so now that the stock price is cheap too, the stock has huge potential. IMveryHO.
!אמן

Offline Ergel

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 12818
  • Total likes: 905
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
Re: Stocks
« Reply #442 on: June 09, 2014, 01:44:15 PM »
$AAPL was always 'cheap' even when its stock price was 'expensive' considering the stock trades at 13 times earnings estimates for next fiscal yr, so now that the stock price is cheap too, the stock has huge potential. IMveryHO.
I own the stock, so I agree. But again, the fact that the stock price is "cheap" (the same as it was yesterday) is only material to the trader who is buying a a couple of shares (and likely knows very little). This person has very little effect on the market. The stock is priced the exact same it was yesterday. Now it is just more accessible to the Joe Shmoe on the street (who doesn't realize it's exactly the same it was yesterday)
Life isn't about checking the boxes. Nobody cares.

Offline Ephraimh

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Oct 2013
  • Posts: 1526
  • Total likes: 64
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
    • View Profile
  • Location: nyc
Re: Stocks
« Reply #443 on: June 09, 2014, 01:59:23 PM »

I own the stock, so I agree. But again, the fact that the stock price is "cheap" (the same as it was yesterday) is only material to the trader who is buying a a couple of shares (and likely knows very little). This person has very little effect on the market. The stock is priced the exact same it was yesterday. Now it is just more accessible to the Joe Shmoe on the street (who doesn't realize it's exactly the same it was yesterday)
Those individual odd lots investors do have some impact on a stock, it should push the stock higher for that reason alone

Offline mercaz1

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Mar 2011
  • Posts: 2097
  • Total likes: 66
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
  • Location: NY
Re: Stocks
« Reply #444 on: June 09, 2014, 02:13:28 PM »
half the reason they split is probably to convince individual investors who thought the stock was to pricey before to buy now

Offline menachem_m

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jul 2012
  • Posts: 1217
  • Total likes: 1
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 29
    • View Profile
Re: Stocks
« Reply #445 on: June 09, 2014, 02:14:29 PM »
Maybe they wanted to be in the DOW?

Offline MAJ

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite
  • ****
  • Join Date: May 2012
  • Posts: 486
  • Total likes: 6
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: NY
Re: Stocks
« Reply #446 on: June 09, 2014, 05:21:33 PM »
History shows that stocks go up after a split. Not saying it's logical ...

Offline PBaruch

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2013
  • Posts: 2269
  • Total likes: 296
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
  • Location: HutzNPlutz
Re: Stocks
« Reply #447 on: June 12, 2014, 11:29:47 AM »
What do you guys think about GoPro?  They are making $ but they are also a 1 trick pony. 
What do you do after your dreams come true?

Offline damaxer91

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jul 2008
  • Posts: 3182
  • Total likes: 64
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 6
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Stocks
« Reply #448 on: June 12, 2014, 11:31:46 AM »
What do you guys think about GoPro?  They are making $ but they are also a 1 trick pony. 

They are more than that. They have become a lifestyle brand

Offline PBaruch

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2013
  • Posts: 2269
  • Total likes: 296
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
  • Location: HutzNPlutz
Re: Stocks
« Reply #449 on: June 12, 2014, 11:34:48 AM »
They are more than that. They have become a lifestyle brand

Point is, when the next disruptive technology comes out that is better, what else do they have?  They sell essentially 1 product (although they make different variations of it).  It's not like they have multiple products across different product lines.  And I'm not bashing the company.  I own and love their products (except that quality control sucks).
What do you do after your dreams come true?

Offline 12HRS

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2013
  • Posts: 5108
  • Total likes: 575
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 6
    • View Profile
Re: Stocks
« Reply #450 on: June 13, 2014, 12:50:14 AM »
Delta a buy if it drops again?

Offline PlatinumGuy

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Apr 2011
  • Posts: 14958
  • Total likes: 2421
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 11
    • View Profile
Re: Stocks
« Reply #451 on: June 13, 2014, 04:59:16 AM »
What do you guys think about GoPro?  They are making $ but they are also a 1 trick pony.

I wouldn't buy long term into any camera companies. They're on the road to oblivion.
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

Offline PBaruch

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2013
  • Posts: 2269
  • Total likes: 296
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
  • Location: HutzNPlutz
Re: Stocks
« Reply #452 on: June 13, 2014, 10:08:45 AM »
I wouldn't buy long term into any camera companies. They're on the road to oblivion.

What makes you say that?  Yes, its true that cell phones are hurting the point and shoot market, but DSLR cameras will never be replaced by smartphones, at least not the ones manufactured today.  Further, at least or the time being, you cannot accomplish what the GoPro does with anything else (except of course some competitors similar products which are not as good).  Still, I am concerned about buying a 1 trick pony. 
What do you do after your dreams come true?

Offline dsw193

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2013
  • Posts: 649
  • Total likes: 7
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: Brooklyn, NY
Re: Stocks
« Reply #453 on: June 18, 2014, 06:16:49 PM »
I am looking to put in 10k in a mutual fund.
aiming more towards long term so some risk is acceptable, but I have no clue where/how.
is there a good fund and trader to go to? or is it like stocks(which I would'nt / should'nt take just anyone's advice)? TIA

Offline yos9694

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Aug 2012
  • Posts: 1903
  • Total likes: 899
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 6
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Stocks
« Reply #454 on: June 18, 2014, 07:41:37 PM »
I am looking to put in 10k in a mutual fund.
aiming more towards long term so some risk is acceptable, but I have no clue where/how.
is there a good fund and trader to go to? or is it like stocks(which I would'nt / should'nt take just anyone's advice)? TIA

A hot fund is this
https://www.nylinvestments.com/mainstay/products-and-performance/MainStay-Marketfield-Fund

Offline george

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2012
  • Posts: 687
  • Total likes: 7
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
Re: Stocks
« Reply #455 on: June 18, 2014, 07:51:26 PM »
I am looking to put in 10k in a mutual fund.
aiming more towards long term so some risk is acceptable, but I have no clue where/how.
is there a good fund and trader to go to? or is it like stocks(which I would'nt / should'nt take just anyone's advice)? TIA
Vanguard.com

Offline 12HRS

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2013
  • Posts: 5108
  • Total likes: 575
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 6
    • View Profile
Re: Stocks
« Reply #456 on: June 18, 2014, 11:56:05 PM »
I am looking to put in 10k in a mutual fund.
aiming more towards long term so some risk is acceptable, but I have no clue where/how.
is there a good fund and trader to go to? or is it like stocks(which I would'nt / should'nt take just anyone's advice)? TIA

vanguard, fidelity.

look for a low cost fund. they will have tools that let you sort based on risk/"reward"/cost factors. Check out websites like kiplinger for recommendations.

You can choose a sector of the market that you think overall will perform better or pick a fund that tracks the overall market.

Offline 12HRS

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2013
  • Posts: 5108
  • Total likes: 575
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 6
    • View Profile
Re: Stocks
« Reply #457 on: June 18, 2014, 11:59:41 PM »
A hot fund is this
https://www.nylinvestments.com/mainstay/products-and-performance/MainStay-Marketfield-Fund

why is it hot? expenses are high and returns have not been spectacular compared to the market

5.5% sales charge is taking money right off the top. then an expense ratio of nearly 3%

there are funds that have no sales charge, under 1% expense ratio and have a history of beating the market.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2014, 12:03:37 AM by 12HRS »

Offline PBaruch

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2013
  • Posts: 2269
  • Total likes: 296
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
  • Location: HutzNPlutz
Re: Stocks
« Reply #458 on: June 19, 2014, 12:03:51 AM »
Does anyone know if there are restrictions for the sale of GoPro stock purchased at IPO?  I know that sometimes companies place restrictions on sale of stock at IPO.
What do you do after your dreams come true?

Offline lyla

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2010
  • Posts: 676
  • Total likes: 1
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
  • Location: New York
Re: Stocks
« Reply #459 on: June 19, 2014, 10:19:24 PM »
Does anyone know if there are restrictions for the sale of GoPro stock purchased at IPO?  I know that sometimes companies place restrictions on sale of stock at IPO.
Nope. You can sell the day it opens with no penalty. I enquired already.