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Re: Stocks
« Reply #720 on: October 23, 2014, 11:28:29 PM »
I know what the concept of shorting is but I don't know how to actually do it, would it be difficult for you to explain it to me?

Its really very simple, on etrade when placing an order, you have 4options : buy,sell,sell short and buy to cover.

When for example stock is at $100 and you believe it will drop you place a 'sell short ' order. If you were successful and stock dropped to $95 that's when you enter 'buy to cover'order .
If you were unlucky and stock hits at $105 you still have the choice to 'buy to cover' at a loss of $5/ share. Basically when placing the short you want to be as high as possible.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #721 on: October 23, 2014, 11:49:58 PM »
Its really very simple, on etrade when placing an order, you have 4options : buy,sell,sell short and buy to cover.

When for example stock is at $100 and you believe it will drop you place a 'sell short ' order. If you were successful and stock dropped to $95 that's when you enter 'buy to cover'order .
If you were unlucky and stock hits at $105 you still have the choice to 'buy to cover' at a loss of $5/ share. Basically when placing the short you want to be as high as possible.
Thanks, just logged in to my Scottrade account and saw those 4 options,

I'm general, don't you feel it's riskier to short then to buy?
I somehow have the feeling even if it goes down it will/might still catch back up, but if it rises then there are lesser chances it should fall much,
I might be very wrong but that's my feeling..

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #722 on: October 24, 2014, 12:01:14 AM »
Thanks, just logged in to my Scottrade account and saw those 4 options,

I'm general, don't you feel it's riskier to short then to buy?
I somehow have the feeling even if it goes down it will/might still catch back up, but if it rises then there are lesser chances it should fall much,
I might be very wrong but that's my feeling..

Stay away from stocks unless you have money to blow. If you feel so desperate to go into the stock market, take a couple of hundred bucks and go to AC.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #723 on: October 24, 2014, 12:04:02 AM »
I shorted amzn after hours at 192 and covered at 175

You're referring to 2012 I hope, unless you have some black box system.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #724 on: October 24, 2014, 12:04:56 AM »

Thanks, just logged in to my Scottrade account and saw those 4 options,

I'm general, don't you feel it's riskier to short then to buy?
I somehow have the feeling even if it goes down it will/might still catch back up, but if it rises then there are lesser chances it should fall much,
I might be very wrong but that's my feeling..
+100
And it's not your feeling it's actually a fact.

As Mr. Buffet always says (Generally speaking) At the end of the day markets go up, the market will be higher in ten years from now regardless what happens until then , the same way markets are now higher v 10 years ago regardless what happened.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #725 on: October 24, 2014, 12:07:13 AM »
+100
And it's not your feeling it's actually a fact.

As Mr. Buffet always says (Generally speaking) At the end of the day markets go up, the market will be higher in ten years from now regardless what happens until then , the same way markets are now higher v 10 years ago regardless what happened.

That's inflation

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #726 on: October 24, 2014, 12:10:20 AM »

That's inflation
Huh?
$AAPL's growth v 10 years ago, IS INFLATION?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #727 on: October 24, 2014, 09:24:26 AM »
Thanks, just logged in to my Scottrade account and saw those 4 options,

I'm general, don't you feel it's riskier to short then to buy?
I somehow have the feeling even if it goes down it will/might still catch back up, but if it rises then there are lesser chances it should fall much,
I might be very wrong but that's my feeling..
also, it's riskier because the risk vs reward is not even. The max you can profit is limited to if the stock goes to zero. However the potential loss is much worse because there is no limit to how high the stock jump.
this is obvious but I'm spelling it out anyway

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #728 on: October 24, 2014, 01:37:20 PM »
Thanks, just logged in to my Scottrade account and saw those 4 options,

I'm general, don't you feel it's riskier to short then to buy?
I somehow have the feeling even if it goes down it will/might still catch back up, but if it rises then there are lesser chances it should fall much,
I might be very wrong but that's my feeling..

shorting is a trade that 90% get covered within a very short period of time, its definitely not  the correct way of investing. pure speculation if you like the rush

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #729 on: October 24, 2014, 01:38:35 PM »
You're referring to 2012 I hope, unless you have some black box system.

you're right !
 i actually meant that i shorted the stock at 292 (not 192) and covered 30 mins later at 275 (not 175) .

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #730 on: October 24, 2014, 01:45:33 PM »
Stay away from stocks unless you have money to blow. If you feel so desperate to go into the stock market, take a couple of hundred bucks and go to AC.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #731 on: October 28, 2014, 09:20:12 AM »
Who has Twitter?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #732 on: October 28, 2014, 08:41:31 PM »
Thinking strongly about buying Twitter on the dip . Solid company with a increasing revenue just didn't live up to analyst who wanted much more user growth . In the long run it will go up ...

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #733 on: October 28, 2014, 09:10:17 PM »
What about Boeing?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #734 on: October 28, 2014, 09:21:28 PM »
$ORB is on a big [...super-short-term sell-the-news kind of a...] downfall right now, following the explosion.

Might be a good stock to pick up tomorrow, for a very likely +5% jump on Thursday.