Author Topic: cathay biz vs first (jfk-yvr- flight cx0889)  (Read 6654 times)

Offline Q274

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Nov 2010
  • Posts: 1687
  • Total likes: 10
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: nyc
  • Programs: barely
cathay biz vs first (jfk-yvr- flight cx0889)
« on: October 15, 2012, 11:38:09 AM »
i am currently booked jfk-yvr in biz no return flight, not sure if i wanna book in f or not. does anyone have any experience who can tell me the diff bet the first class seats and the biz seats?

thanks

Offline Side incomer

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: May 2011
  • Posts: 3507
  • Total likes: 1
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: Brooklyn
Re: cathay biz vs first (jfk-yvr- flight cx0889)
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2012, 11:43:02 AM »
Side income is the most solid income... בדוק ומנוסה

Online PlatinumGuy

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Apr 2011
  • Posts: 15091
  • Total likes: 2437
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 11
    • View Profile
Re: cathay biz vs first (jfk-yvr- flight cx0889)
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2012, 11:47:44 AM »
The difference is service more than the seat, but if you've never done it I'd recommend paying the extra 12.5k just for the heck of it.
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

Offline Q274

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Nov 2010
  • Posts: 1687
  • Total likes: 10
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: nyc
  • Programs: barely
Re: cathay biz vs first (jfk-yvr- flight cx0889)
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2012, 12:00:44 PM »
Dan wrote about it here:

http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/24056
thanks - i am not a big dd home page guy (i get the tweets and emails) didnt even think about checking there.

either way he has convinced me

Offline AJK

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 20K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 25499
  • Total likes: 723
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 15
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: United Concierge Key; Delta Global Services; American Chairman; US Airways 1K; Hilton Sapphire; Hyatt Tritium; Marriott Californium; Starwood Kryptonium; Hertz Plutonium; National Adamantium, Avis Executive Proactanium
Re: cathay biz vs first (jfk-yvr- flight cx0889)
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2012, 12:20:49 PM »
Since your question has been answered, I'll ask one a bit OT:

Anyone know if one can use the XXX-JFK-YVR as AA's free stopover? Or does the JFK-YYY have to be in USA?
2015: 116K bkd | 1.6M brnd | F: OZ,NH,AA,EK | J: UA,CA,TK,DL,TN,AF,VA | LIH,NRT,ROR,PEK,CNS,BOB,MEL,TLV & Pacific Hopper

Offline AsherO

  • Global Moderator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 30K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 31012
  • Total likes: 7974
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 79
    • View Profile
  • Location: NYC
Re: cathay biz vs first (jfk-yvr- flight cx0889)
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2012, 12:23:58 PM »
Since your question has been answered, I'll ask one a bit OT:

Anyone know if one can use the XXX-JFK-YVR as AA's free stopover? Or does the JFK-YYY have to be in USA?

Doesn't the free stopover only work to a gateway? Isn't YVR the North-American gateway in this case?
DDF FFB (Forum From Birth)

Offline AJK

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 20K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 25499
  • Total likes: 723
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 15
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: United Concierge Key; Delta Global Services; American Chairman; US Airways 1K; Hilton Sapphire; Hyatt Tritium; Marriott Californium; Starwood Kryptonium; Hertz Plutonium; National Adamantium, Avis Executive Proactanium
Re: cathay biz vs first (jfk-yvr- flight cx0889)
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2012, 12:29:23 PM »
Doesn't the free stopover only work to a gateway? Isn't YVR the North-American gateway in this case?

The stopover must be AT  the gateway (JFK), not TO a gateway.

For instance, I'd like to know if I can do HGK-JFK(stop)-YVR.
2015: 116K bkd | 1.6M brnd | F: OZ,NH,AA,EK | J: UA,CA,TK,DL,TN,AF,VA | LIH,NRT,ROR,PEK,CNS,BOB,MEL,TLV & Pacific Hopper

Online PlatinumGuy

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Apr 2011
  • Posts: 15091
  • Total likes: 2437
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 11
    • View Profile
Re: cathay biz vs first (jfk-yvr- flight cx0889)
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2012, 12:45:57 PM »
The stopover must be AT  the gateway (JFK), not TO a gateway.

For instance, I'd like to know if I can do HGK-JFK(stop)-YVR.
you can do it but I think the system tries to block it.
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

Offline AJK

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 20K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 25499
  • Total likes: 723
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 15
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: United Concierge Key; Delta Global Services; American Chairman; US Airways 1K; Hilton Sapphire; Hyatt Tritium; Marriott Californium; Starwood Kryptonium; Hertz Plutonium; National Adamantium, Avis Executive Proactanium
Re: cathay biz vs first (jfk-yvr- flight cx0889)
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2012, 12:48:22 PM »
you can do it but I think the system tries to block it.

So are you saying it's officially allowed or not officially allowed but with enough HUCA you can get it done?
2015: 116K bkd | 1.6M brnd | F: OZ,NH,AA,EK | J: UA,CA,TK,DL,TN,AF,VA | LIH,NRT,ROR,PEK,CNS,BOB,MEL,TLV & Pacific Hopper

Online PlatinumGuy

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Apr 2011
  • Posts: 15091
  • Total likes: 2437
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 11
    • View Profile
Re: cathay biz vs first (jfk-yvr- flight cx0889)
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2012, 02:29:40 PM »
So are you saying it's officially allowed or not officially allowed but with enough HUCA you can get it done?
Didnt notice your question was about Canada.
(I thought u were asking about the West Coast)

It is officially allowed I think.
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

Offline AJK

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 20K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 25499
  • Total likes: 723
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 15
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: United Concierge Key; Delta Global Services; American Chairman; US Airways 1K; Hilton Sapphire; Hyatt Tritium; Marriott Californium; Starwood Kryptonium; Hertz Plutonium; National Adamantium, Avis Executive Proactanium
Re: cathay biz vs first (jfk-yvr- flight cx0889)
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2012, 03:26:20 PM »
HKG-JFK-YVR is not allowed, but only because it exceeds MPM.

Thus, one can fly XXX-JFK-YVR as long as XXX-YVR does not exceed MPM.
2015: 116K bkd | 1.6M brnd | F: OZ,NH,AA,EK | J: UA,CA,TK,DL,TN,AF,VA | LIH,NRT,ROR,PEK,CNS,BOB,MEL,TLV & Pacific Hopper

Online PlatinumGuy

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Apr 2011
  • Posts: 15091
  • Total likes: 2437
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 11
    • View Profile
Re: cathay biz vs first (jfk-yvr- flight cx0889)
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2012, 03:34:03 PM »
HKG-JFK-YVR is not allowed, but only because it exceeds MPM.

Thus, one can fly XXX-JFK-YVR as long as XXX-YVR does not exceed MPM.
I did HKG-JFK-SFO-LAX, but the system didn't like it.
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

Offline AJK

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 20K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 25499
  • Total likes: 723
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 15
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: United Concierge Key; Delta Global Services; American Chairman; US Airways 1K; Hilton Sapphire; Hyatt Tritium; Marriott Californium; Starwood Kryptonium; Hertz Plutonium; National Adamantium, Avis Executive Proactanium
Re: cathay biz vs first (jfk-yvr- flight cx0889)
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2012, 03:48:38 PM »
That may be ok, as it might not exceed MPM. Dont have MPM numbers in front of me.
2015: 116K bkd | 1.6M brnd | F: OZ,NH,AA,EK | J: UA,CA,TK,DL,TN,AF,VA | LIH,NRT,ROR,PEK,CNS,BOB,MEL,TLV & Pacific Hopper

Offline Drago

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 8416
  • Total likes: 75
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 18
    • View Profile
Re: cathay biz vs first (jfk-yvr- flight cx0889)
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2013, 01:45:14 PM »
Looking for an updated opinions.

I'm trying to book family from CLE - HKT to meet up with us.
My thought is to use AA miles from JFK - HKG - HKT (although I don't see any availability on the HKG - HKT segment). And then add in a free OW somewhere previously.
Currently, only biz class is showing 2+ seats available, while first is showing 1 seat.
I have heard that availability is often opened up prior to the date, but don't want to rely on that as I want to have e/t set for them in advance.

So... is it worth flying CX biz class over a *A itin? Or is their biz class not as special as their first class?

Offline AJK

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 20K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 25499
  • Total likes: 723
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 15
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: United Concierge Key; Delta Global Services; American Chairman; US Airways 1K; Hilton Sapphire; Hyatt Tritium; Marriott Californium; Starwood Kryptonium; Hertz Plutonium; National Adamantium, Avis Executive Proactanium
Re: cathay biz vs first (jfk-yvr- flight cx0889)
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2013, 02:11:27 PM »
CX is one of the best J classes.
2015: 116K bkd | 1.6M brnd | F: OZ,NH,AA,EK | J: UA,CA,TK,DL,TN,AF,VA | LIH,NRT,ROR,PEK,CNS,BOB,MEL,TLV & Pacific Hopper

Offline Drago

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 8416
  • Total likes: 75
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 18
    • View Profile
Re: cathay biz vs first (jfk-yvr- flight cx0889)
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2013, 02:15:07 PM »
CX is one of the best J classes.
Thanks. It also appears to be the most time efficient.
The problem now is that I don't see HKG - HKT availability.

I think I'm going to use a paid service like MileValue, as I don't have the time it'll take to research this stuff for them.

Offline Ergel

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 13070
  • Total likes: 905
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
Re: cathay biz vs first (jfk-yvr- flight cx0889)
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2013, 04:35:36 PM »
Thanks. It also appears to be the most time efficient.
The problem now is that I don't see HKG - HKT availability.

I think I'm going to use a paid service like MileValue, as I don't have the time it'll take to research this stuff for them.
Canadian kilometers just offered to do it for free if you trust him
Life isn't about checking the boxes. Nobody cares.

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 68924
  • Total likes: 17306
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: cathay biz vs first (jfk-yvr- flight cx0889)
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2013, 04:40:53 PM »
Canadian kilometers just offered to do it for free if you trust him
"UPDATE: I’ve been swamped with so many requests that should you wish to fill in the form, I am going to ask you to be on my “waiting list!"
Also wasn't free per se but name your own price.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline Ergel

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 13070
  • Total likes: 905
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
Re: cathay biz vs first (jfk-yvr- flight cx0889)
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2013, 04:43:27 PM »
"UPDATE: I’ve been swamped with so many requests that should you wish to fill in the form, I am going to ask you to be on my “waiting list!"
Also wasn't free per se but name your own price.
Don't really follow him so didn't know what happened with it. is it just me or does he come off as a real amateur who has no business writing a blog?
Life isn't about checking the boxes. Nobody cares.

Offline Drago

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 8416
  • Total likes: 75
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 18
    • View Profile
Re: cathay biz vs first (jfk-yvr- flight cx0889)
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2013, 05:00:39 PM »
Canadian kilometers just offered to do it for free if you trust him
He seems like a nice guy, but went in over his head w/ his offer.

Don't really follow him so didn't know what happened with it. is it just me or does he come off as a real amateur who has no business writing a blog?
Many times, yes. BA may have brought him on board for the Canadian presence.