Author Topic: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit? (Read 493213 times)

AJK · « **Reply #1280 on:** February 11, 2015, 02:38:00 PM »

Quote from: MC on February 11, 2015, 02:36:55 PM

I'm not booking my flights to LHR yet, or planning any other extravagant vacations. If this is how I get home from a wedding I was planning to go to anyways, then great. If not, we all know there are plenty of other options.

Quote from: MC on February 11, 2015, 02:24:49 PM

Your optimism is truly remarkable.

Dan · « **Reply #1281 on:** February 11, 2015, 02:44:52 PM »

There's plenty of awesome stuff to do on Oahu
The problem is that most people just laze around Waikiki and for that you may as well go to MIA.

Pearl Harbor is nice to visit if you're into history. I did go there on my first visit to HI, though my chavrusa never forgave me for making him go there on a 48 hour trip.
Mostly you'll just see lots of Japanese people, a film, and oil from the sunken ships. I probably wouldn't give up a day of snorkeling, kayaking, etc for it unless you're a history buff.

Marco Polo · « **Reply #1282 on:** February 11, 2015, 02:48:47 PM »

Quote from: Dan on February 11, 2015, 02:44:52 PM

There's plenty of awesome stuff to do on Oahu
The problem is that most people just laze around Waikiki and for that you may as well go to MIA.

Pearl Harbor is nice to visit if you're into history. I did go there on my first visit to HI, though my chavrusa never forgave me for making him go there on a 48 hour trip.
Mostly you'll just see lots of Japanese people, a film, and oil from the sunken ships. I probably wouldn't give up a day of snorkeling, kayaking, etc for it unless you're a history buff.

They Hyatt properties don't seem that great there. Make sense in addition to other factors, go to a different island with a "better" Hyatt?

skyguy918 · « **Reply #1283 on:** February 11, 2015, 02:50:00 PM »

Quote from: Dan on February 11, 2015, 02:44:52 PM

There's plenty of awesome stuff to do on Oahu
The problem is that most people just laze around Waikiki and for that you may as well go to MIA.

Pearl Harbor is nice to visit if you're into history. I did go there on my first visit to HI, though my chavrusa never forgave me for making him go there on a 48 hour trip.
Mostly you'll just see lots of Japanese people, a film, and oil from the sunken ships. I probably wouldn't give up a day of snorkeling, kayaking, etc for it unless you're a history buff.

Big time. I couldn't get over that part.

Marco Polo · « **Reply #1284 on:** February 11, 2015, 02:50:34 PM »

Quote from: skyguy918 on February 11, 2015, 02:50:00 PM

Big time. I couldn't get over that part.

I was just in Japan, so don't need to overload on that.

Dan · « **Reply #1285 on:** February 11, 2015, 02:55:53 PM »

Quote from: Marco Polo on February 11, 2015, 02:48:47 PM

They Hyatt properties don't seem that great there. Make sense in addition to other factors, go to a different island with a "better" Hyatt?

Sure.

Galitzyaner · « **Reply #1286 on:** February 15, 2015, 01:23:52 AM »

Quote from: AJK on February 08, 2015, 11:21:46 PM

But, see, that's exactly the point. Doing three islands in as many days isn't "half a loaf," it's no loaf.

Better to experience something the way it was meant to be than nothing the way it was not.

Sceneries don't lie. I guess it's a matter of opinion.

Quote from: Ergel on February 08, 2015, 11:46:40 PM

And that doesn't mean not going. It just means not going to three islands in four days
Do you think someone would enjoy four days on the east coast in NYC, DC and Boston?

I beg to differ. The areas you're comparing to are extremely larger, and are very different.

Quote from: efflpetzel on February 08, 2015, 11:24:31 PM

do you mind elaborating about Shabbos?,

Also I'm curious what things you got to do in Koa as the place involves lots of driving

Re. Shabbos? Well, I'm sort of not sure if I should. I think I'll share it if someone inquires about their food plans for Shabbos on the big island...

Re. Koa: Hapuna, Waipio lookout, Mauna Kea, Volcanoes National Park. Yes, it was a lot of driving.

Quote from: skyguy918 on February 09, 2015, 10:05:23 AM

@galitzyaner
Honestly, I'm baffled by just about everything you're saying. Everybody's different, and of course it's possible some people just don't enjoy what HI has to offer, but you'd definitely be in the minority (like small, infinitesimal minority ). Why don't you post your full itinerary? Or a list of places you'd rate higher? Maybe we'd get a better idea of where you're coming from. I don't know why we're all so obsessed with explaining why you didn't enjoy it - it's like we have this collective itch to scratch.

Lol! Well you see, if I'd actually rate each place separately, I'd admittedly be rating much of them very high. There's no doubt, I absolutely enjoyed all the nature and scenery that I observed during my small time there. I wrote what I wrote discussing overall.

Dan · « **Reply #1287 on:** February 15, 2015, 08:33:22 AM »

NYC, DC and Boston are extremely larger than the Hawaiian islands?
News to me.

Hawaii's current ad campaign is let Hawaii happen. On your itin it was more like lets try to "do" Hawaii like NYers drive home from work on erev shabbos.

Galitzyaner · « **Reply #1288 on:** February 15, 2015, 12:30:09 PM »

Quote from: Dan on February 15, 2015, 08:33:22 AM

NYC, DC and Boston are extremely larger than the Hawaiian islands?
News to me.

Don't know why, but the image conjured in my mind when I read "four days on the east coast in NYC, DC and Boston" was driving DC and the east coast all the way up to Boston via nyc.
Ain't that land mass of all those states larger than the state of Hawaii?

myb821 · « **Reply #1289 on:** February 15, 2015, 12:31:18 PM »

Quote from: Galitzyaner on February 15, 2015, 12:30:09 PM

Don't know why, but the image conjured in my mind when I read "four days on the east coast in NYC, DC and Boston" was driving DC and the east coast all the way up to Boston via nyc.
Ain't that land mass of all those states larger than the state of Hawaii?

Totally missing the point.

Galitzyaner · « **Reply #1290 on:** February 15, 2015, 01:03:20 PM »

Quote from: myb821 on February 15, 2015, 12:31:18 PM

Totally missing the point.

I got the point...

Quote from: Dan on February 15, 2015, 08:33:22 AM

On your itin it was more like lets try to "do" Hawaii like NYers drive home from work on erev shabbos.

...but I disagree. I really don't think I toured in that fashion. I didn't get to many sights, but the places I did visit, I took my time.

Ergel · « **Reply #1291 on:** February 15, 2015, 01:22:43 PM »

Quote from: Ergel on February 08, 2015, 11:46:40 PM

And that doesn't mean not going. It just means not going to three islands in four days

Do you think someone would enjoy four days on the east coast in NYC, DC and Boston?

I meant flying between them and trying to tour each of them. Which is exactly what you did

Galitzyaner · « **Reply #1292 on:** February 15, 2015, 01:32:45 PM »

Quote from: Ergel on February 15, 2015, 01:22:43 PM

I meant flying between them and trying to tour each of them. Which is exactly what you did

Ok. I hear ya. But they're just so different in my mind.

It's hard to compare dense urban landscapes with much of its attractions hidden inside concrete buildings which you'd have to enter to see, to Hawaii type.

I got your point though.

Dan · « **Reply #1293 on:** February 15, 2015, 01:42:03 PM »

Quote from: Galitzyaner on February 15, 2015, 01:32:45 PM

Ok. I hear ya. But they're just so different in my mind.
It's hard to compare dense urban landscapes with much of its attractions hidden inside concrete buildings which you'd have to enter to see, to Hawaii type.

I got your point though.

If anything you can see what's in those building far quicker than an entire island of outdoor activities.

I spent a month in Hawaii on one trip and only scratched the surface.

@Yehuda · « **Reply #1294 on:** February 21, 2015, 07:48:39 PM »

With many thanks to G-d, I was able to make this (edited) post yesterday afternoon:

Quote from: @Yehuda on February 20, 2015, 01:25:44 PM

DEN-OGG !!!!!
2 pax in J - 35K LH each

When I get to my TR iy"h, perhaps I'll mention all the close calls of when I booked this trip and then cancelled because of date conflicts, work conflicts, etc. While randomly searching on Friday, I just decided to look at DEN and there it was, coach and business availability for partner bookings, and I jumped!

So, let's start with this Q: I know that if you land in HNL, the first thing you do is get on a plane to another island

, but if you land in OGG, do you just stay there or do you pick another place? The flight lands around 11:30AM which is earlier than had I taken the direct EWR-HNL, so I know I'm already on an island that's great to stay on, but if I did go on to another island, I'd still get there before I would had I landed in HNL originally.

Based on psak I got, we plan to do the Sunday afternoon through Thursday afternoon trip to Hawaii. So that's: an evening, 3 full days, and a short morning. I've almost finished reading Kauai revealed, so that's definitely pushing me towards Kauai, and from the TRs I've read, Kauai sounds more exciting to me than Maui. GHK also looks nicer in pics than Andaz Maui. Thoughts?

Something Fishy · « **Reply #1295 on:** February 21, 2015, 08:02:12 PM »

Quote from: @Yehuda on February 21, 2015, 07:48:39 PM

With many thanks to G-d, I was able to make this (edited) post yesterday afternoon:

Mazel tov!

I would say it makes more sense to stay on Maui, simply based on your limited time available.

I think you should read Maui Revealed as well and only then make the call. Who knows, you may find it more appealing then.

Dan · « **Reply #1296 on:** February 21, 2015, 08:04:29 PM »

Definitely just stay on Maui.

Ergel · « **Reply #1297 on:** February 21, 2015, 08:04:53 PM »

Quote from: Something Fishy on February 21, 2015, 08:02:12 PM

Mazel tov!

I would say it makes more sense to stay on Maui, simply based on your limited time available.

I think you should read Maui Revealed as well and only then make the call. Who knows, you may find it more appealing then.

+1
Is your return OGG-DEN? What time?

@Yehuda · « **Reply #1298 on:** February 21, 2015, 08:33:41 PM »

Quote from: Something Fishy on February 21, 2015, 08:02:12 PM

Mazel tov!

I would say it makes more sense to stay on Maui, simply based on your limited time available.

I think you should read Maui Revealed as well and only then make the call. Who knows, you may find it more appealing then.

Thanks!! Good point.

Quote from: Dan on February 21, 2015, 08:04:29 PM

Definitely just stay on Maui.

Coming the main Kauai pusher here, that means something. Thanks!

Quote from: Ergel on February 21, 2015, 08:04:53 PM

+1
Is your return OGG-DEN? What time?

Thanks! No return yet. The goal would be to catch the 1PM flight to LAX. Should be past the dateline issue well before shkia.

Something Fishy · « **Reply #1299 on:** March 03, 2015, 03:35:06 PM »

Could Korean or Alitalia book into DL BE as well at their regular biz rate?

(Theoretically of course, not that space is ever open

...)

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