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Please post your questions in the correct thread. This thread, as the title clearly states, is for general Hawaii questions only.

If you have any questions that pertains to a particular island, post it in the appropriate island thread. See below for links to all island threads.

You'd get far better answers there, and chances are that your issue was already discussed at length too.

DansMeals: Hawaii For The Kosher Traveler:
-Part 1: General Info And The Island Of Oahu
-Part 2: The Big Island of Hawaii
-Part 3: Maui
-Part 4: Kauai

Related DD Posts:
-Ultimate Hawaii Mileage Chart and Everything You Need to Know About the Hawaiian Islands (2015)
-Trip Notes: Maui No Ka ‘Oi (2014)
-Trip Notes Kauai: Heaven On Earth (2014)
-The Hawaiian Islands. (2011)
-Traveling To Hawaii…With A 5 Month Old (2011)
-View From The Room (2011)
-Pearl Harbor…70 Years (2011)
-Shaloha! (2011)
-Hawaii Trip Notes: Kauai (2009)
-Hawaii Trip Notes: Oahu (2009)
-Which Miles To Use To Fly To Hawaii?

Related DDF Destination Threads:
-Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
-Kauai Master Thread
-Maui Master Thread
-Oahu Master Thread
-Lanai, Molokai, and Niihau, Hawaii Master Thread

Background on Hawaiian Islands
You've probably heard of Honolulu. That's the state capital and is located on island of Oahu, the main island with the largest airport. Honolulu hosts the famous Waikiki Beach and if you look at pictures, it looks like Miami. One long beach with a strip of hotels. Most DDFers say to go to one of the other 3 main islands which are less touristy and the hotels are more spread out. In no particular order, the other islands are Maui, Kauai and Hawaii (yes, that's the name of one of the islands. It's also known as The Big Island - confusing because Big Island sounds like it's the "Main Island", but Oahu is the main island). Direct flights from NYC only go to HNL. You can get direct flights from other cities (LAX, SFO, OAK, SJC, SAN, DEN, DFW, PHX, SEA, ORD as examples) to the other islands. Hawaii is amazing - have fun! The main airport codes are:
Oahu: HNL
Maui: OGG
Kauai: LIH
The Big Island: KOA, ITO (2 airports on 2 different sides of the island)

Interisland flights:
Hawaiian is the main interisland carrier and flies HNL, LIH, OGG, KOA, and ITO. They have countless flights each day and are nearly always on time - often even early. Never book a tight connection hoping that the interisland flight will be delayed.

Go and Island Air fly from HNL. Mokulele flies from HNL and KOA, as well as to Kapalua (JHM), Hana (HNM), Molokai (MKK), Lanai (LNY), and Waimea-Kohala (MUE) on the Big Island. Hawaiian's subsidiary Ohana flies HNL to MKK and LNY.

You can also use 5k AA, 6k UA or 7.5k HA miles each way to fly interisland. You can use 15k DL pesos for a RT interisland. United allows a free stopover on a round-trip, so for instance you can fly HNL-LIH-OGG-HNL for just 12K miles.
HA has several tiers, similar to DL, the lowest tier is the only one that's available using partner miles, but with HA miles you can purchase tickets that are otherwise unavailable for additional miles.

@Yehuda's thoughts on deciding between Kauai and Maui:
Here's a list of the main activities on both islands. Decide what interests you, and then you'll know where to go.

Kauai has what many say to be one of the best hikes in the world - Kalalau Trail. Most people will only do the first part, but it's still very highly regarded. The views atop Waimea Canyon are breathtaking, yet Maui also has breathtaking views at Haleakala. Kauai also has some supposedly awesome off-roading on Miloli'i Ridge Road. Sunset at the 12-mile long Polihale Beach is supposed to be quite the sunset. A helicopter tour of Kauai is generally said to be much better than a heli tour of Maui. If the water is calm, Queen's Bath, which is a natural pool in the ocean you can swim in that's protected from the ocean's force by hardened lava, is SICK, but Maui has the same thing by the Olivine Pools. Kayaking down the Wailua River to "Secret Falls" is supposed to be great as well. Of course, the luxurious, tropical amazingness of the Grand Hyatt Kauai is a huge boost for Kauai, except for its beach, but the great Po'ipu Beach is 5 minutes away.

Maui has the Road to Hana, which is an incredible drive through what feels like a rainforest with tons of opportunities to take small hikes to waterfalls and pools. It's just wow wow wow. Sunrise at the top Haleakala is not to be missed. A boat trip to snorkel by Molokini Crater offers what is supposedly some of the best snorkeling visibility in the world. Warren & Annabelle's Magic Show is supposed to be a great night out. The hotels are also magical, perhaps to a lesser degree than GHK, but the beaches by the main hotels are a big plus over GHK's beach. EDIT: The Grand Wailea in Maui is a gorgeous hotel that rivals the GHK (and its lazy river actually moves as opposed to GHK's ). Add in the fact that its beach (Wailea Beach) is swimmable and doesn't require the albeit short drive to Po'ipu Beach that the GHK does, I'm not sure that the GHK should be a reason enough to tip the scales in favor of Kauai over Maui anymore.

So, pick the types of activities you'd want to do and then you'll have your island. I personally liked Maui better mostly because of the Road to Hana, but to be fair, I did miss out on the Kalalau Trail in Kauai due to weather.
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Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #1720 on: February 04, 2016, 06:32:55 PM »
Again, how are you getting 4 full days without flying on "shabbos"
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Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #1721 on: February 04, 2016, 06:36:30 PM »
Again, how are you getting 4 full days without flying on "shabbos"
leave Sunday morning NYC arrive OGG Sunday 6pm leave 7:15 Thursday HNL to LAX arrives Friday morning.

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Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #1722 on: February 04, 2016, 06:38:40 PM »
If you're saying 715pm Thursday that's already "shabbos" for you.
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Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #1723 on: February 04, 2016, 06:48:40 PM »
If you're saying 715pm Thursday that's already "shabbos" for you.
omg I totally don't get how it works, when is the latest I can leave Maui to be in los angeles on Shabbos?

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Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #1724 on: February 04, 2016, 06:51:29 PM »
Not that complicated, if you hold that the local Friday is shabbos then treat Thursday as a Friday.
Would you fly at 7pm on Friday?
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Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #1725 on: February 04, 2016, 06:54:52 PM »
It's also not just a question of not leaving after sundown, but many rabbonim hold that you need to be a certain distance away from Hawaii by sundown.

For example I remember someone getting a psak that they can't take off closer than 2 hours before sundown.
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Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #1726 on: February 04, 2016, 06:57:15 PM »
Makes sense.
I'd say even longer, otherwise what would you do with even a short delay?
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Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #1727 on: February 04, 2016, 06:57:24 PM »
Not that complicated, if you hold that the local Friday is shabbos then treat Thursday as a Friday.
Would you fly at 7pm on Friday?
I have no idea what I hold I was never there, all I know is Shabbos starts by me always Friday nite, are there some that hold differently? Now I don't know what to do anymore cuz I figured I can leave Thursday eve and have 4 full days.

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Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #1728 on: February 04, 2016, 06:58:28 PM »
AYLOR
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Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #1729 on: February 04, 2016, 07:02:31 PM »
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So if I only stay 3 days not worth? What about better than nothing?

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Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #1730 on: February 04, 2016, 07:14:01 PM »
So if I only stay 3 days not worth? What about better than nothing?
It is worth it. He said it's not worth it if you're only going for beaches.

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Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #1731 on: February 04, 2016, 07:15:38 PM »
Who did you talk to?
Did you search for extra dates to meet min stay reqs?
The highest up I was able to get to was Matthew Yurio, Reservations Manager. He never budged except when I called for a test one night and said, "I need a hotel for tonight, can you open up points?"
And, yep. I tried multiple dates, but for my stays it never worked out.

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Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #1732 on: February 04, 2016, 08:41:22 PM »
If you're saying 715pm Thursday that's already "shabbos" for you.
So leaving Thursday HNL at 2:30 is for sure not a shaila right? May-June time

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Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #1733 on: February 04, 2016, 08:56:39 PM »
So leaving Thursday HNL at 2:30 is for sure not a shaila right? May-June time
Myzmanim.com is great for telling what time Shkia is.  ::) But yes, that time is fine.

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Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #1734 on: February 04, 2016, 10:19:45 PM »
Myzmanim.com is great for telling what time Shkia is.  ::) But yes, that time is fine.
As is Google. Just type in location, date and sunset
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Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #1735 on: February 11, 2016, 02:23:17 PM »
I already have EWR-HNL booked and now planning on booking HNL-OGG-HNL with either AA or UA miles. Being that they're going to be on separate reservations, if I miss my connection because of a delay, am I SOL or will they put me on the next flight?

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Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #1736 on: February 11, 2016, 02:47:42 PM »
Just leave plenty of time as you'll also need to claim luggage and recheck it in another terminal.

Miles+bag fees come out cheaper than a paid ticket with free bags?
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Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #1737 on: February 11, 2016, 03:38:59 PM »
Just leave plenty of time as you'll also need to claim luggage and recheck it in another terminal.

Miles+bag fees come out cheaper than a paid ticket with free bags?
How long of a layover would you recommend?

If I book on miles it would be 20k AA (2 pax) + $170 in baggage fees (I'll probably have 3 bags) + $22.40 in YQ
If I book a paid ticket with free bags, it would be $316 + $24 in booking fees.

Basically comes down to 20k AA miles vs. $147.60 cash

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Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #1738 on: February 11, 2016, 03:42:49 PM »
Basically comes down to 20k AA miles vs. $147.60 cash

Seems obvious to me that cash is the better deal...

Plus you'd get free standby as well.
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Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #1739 on: February 11, 2016, 03:47:44 PM »
Seems obvious to me that cash is the better deal...

Plus you'd get free standby as well.
I know you're probably right, but I just got so used to not spending money on flights  ::)