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Re: Sodastream
« Reply #200 on: November 26, 2014, 11:56:59 PM »
Can anyone quote a prominent Posek as to whether or not it's muttar to use a Sodastream (non-electric one) on Shabbos?
So I just spent some time looking into this (I just got a Sodastream...), and this what I came up with.  In the Sefer Shulchan Shlomo (a work put together by a student of R' Shlomo Zalman Auerbach of his Piskei Halacha), R' Shlomo Zalman says it's muttar. Sefer Shmiras Shabbos Kehilchasa says it's muttar as well, but that makes sense, as he generally goes with the psak of R' Shlomo Zalman.

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Re: Sodastream
« Reply #201 on: November 26, 2014, 11:59:05 PM »
I'm pretty sure I once posted the Mareh Makom for Shmiras Shabbos Khilchoso. Where is says that it is muttar
Thanks. Couldn't you have posted this an hour ago??  >:( :D

Would have saved me some time...

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Re: Sodastream
« Reply #202 on: November 27, 2014, 08:27:07 AM »
Can anyone quote a prominent Posek as to whether or not it's muttar to use a Sodastream (non-electric one) on Shabbos?
"Its muttar to use a Sodastream (non-electric one) on Shabbos" - prominent posek.
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Re: Sodastream
« Reply #203 on: November 27, 2014, 12:09:14 PM »
"Its muttar to use a Sodastream (non-electric one) on Shabbos" - prominent posek.
Perfect,  thanks!

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Re: Sodastream
« Reply #204 on: November 27, 2014, 12:24:59 PM »
I don't know if you guys remember but people have been making seltzer for generations, and they had no problem making it on Shabbos. It's a (relatively) new thing that seltzer comes ready in bottles. So now that we are switching back rto making seltzer at home there's no need to revisit it (unless there's a significant change in HOW we do it, but the act of making seltzer has been dealt with).

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Re: Sodastream
« Reply #205 on: December 14, 2014, 02:06:18 PM »
Just got my first 130L CO2. This thing is a monster.

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Re: Sodastream
« Reply #206 on: December 14, 2014, 02:29:19 PM »
Just got my first 130L CO2. This thing is a monster.
You gotta drink alot of soda to make that a worthwhile purchase
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Re: Sodastream
« Reply #207 on: December 14, 2014, 03:46:44 PM »
I don't know if you guys remember but people have been making seltzer for generations, and they had no problem making it on Shabbos. It's a (relatively) new thing that seltzer comes ready in bottles. So now that we are switching back rto making seltzer at home there's no need to revisit it (unless there's a significant change in HOW we do it, but the act of making seltzer has been dealt with).
According to when zeidy was young they used to get ready made seltzer every Friday.

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Re: Sodastream
« Reply #208 on: December 14, 2014, 04:05:26 PM »
You gotta drink alot of soda to make that a worthwhile purchase
Huh? I replace my 60L every few weeks, so this will just >double my replacement time.

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Re: Sodastream
« Reply #209 on: December 14, 2014, 04:08:56 PM »
Huh? I replace my 60L every few weeks, so this will just >double my replacement time.
Costs more to buy and replace. Less per liter, but only slightly less. The initial outlay is what sets you back
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Re: Sodastream
« Reply #210 on: October 09, 2015, 12:22:04 PM »
Costs more to buy and replace. Less per liter, but only slightly less. The initial outlay is what sets you back
Wow, didn't see this and was just searching for this thread. Umm it costs $30 vs $15 and it's 130l vs. 60l so it's a better deal...

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Re: Sodastream
« Reply #211 on: October 09, 2015, 12:29:25 PM »
Wow, didn't see this and was just searching for this thread. Umm it costs $30 vs $15 and it's 130l vs. 60l so it's a better deal...
Factor in initial cost and how often you change it to determine value.
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Re: Sodastream
« Reply #212 on: October 09, 2015, 12:45:15 PM »
Wow, didn't see this and was just searching for this thread. Umm it costs $30 vs $15 and it's 130l vs. 60l so it's a better deal...
Assume you have to buy the 130 and don't need to also buy the 60. So you need to lay out an additional $50
Assume that
it costs $30 vs $15 and it's 130l vs. 60l
is correct.
Cost per liter is 30/130 =23.08 cents and 15/60 =25 cents
Then you need to refill the 130L one 20 times in order to break even (20*130+50=650). That equates to refilling the 60L one 43.333 times (43.333*15=650)

Of course you also need to factor in the cost of goin out an extra 1.166 times with the 60L, so that might cancel out the above.

This of course ignores the $5 off coupon from BBB which then makes it more cost effective to use the 60L as the costs are then 10/60 = 16.6667 cents vs 25/130 = 19.3 cents.
Even if you were to use the 20% off for the 130L it is still a cost of 18.46cents



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Re: Sodastream
« Reply #213 on: October 12, 2015, 12:10:49 PM »
Assume you have to buy the 130 and don't need to also buy the 60. So you need to lay out an additional $50
Assume that  is correct.

Pretty sure BBB will let you exchange the a 60L for a 130L. So there is no additional cost.

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Re: Sodastream
« Reply #214 on: October 25, 2015, 11:50:36 PM »
Cheapest way to obtain sodastream flavors?

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Re: Sodastream
« Reply #215 on: October 26, 2015, 12:07:11 AM »
Pretty sure BBB will let you exchange the a 60L for a 130L. So there is no additional cost.
you can exchange them in the sense that you'll get the exchange price. Still the exchange on the larger tank is 29.99 vs 14.99 for the smaller

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Re: Sodastream
« Reply #216 on: October 26, 2015, 01:31:59 PM »
Is is mutter to change the cartridge on Shabbos?

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Re: Sodastream
« Reply #217 on: October 26, 2015, 01:45:28 PM »
Is is mutter to change the cartridge on Shabbos?
Is it muter to use sodastream on shabbos?
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Re: Sodastream
« Reply #218 on: October 26, 2015, 01:45:57 PM »
Cheapest way to obtain sodastream flavors?

Bestbuy has some flavors on Clearance




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Re: Sodastream
« Reply #219 on: October 26, 2015, 02:16:47 PM »
Is it muter to use sodastream on shabbos?
Yes, assuming you don't have the electronic version. Perhaps changing the cartridge falls under something like Makeh BePatish? Just a thought - no idea whether it's allowed or not.