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Healthy eating in frum world
« on: June 11, 2025, 02:38:13 AM »
Years ago I posted about the Mediterranean diet and separately about going dairy free.

After struggle with stomach pains for years, I am focused on a high natural fiber diet, no dairy for now, minimal gluten .

Full confession, growing up we ate extremely healthy. Brown rice, natural cereal, no soda in house etc  I craved the junk food and got it as I matured. Pizza, burgers etc

The pea soup my grandmother devoured at Sara's kosher pizza

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Detailed Benefits:
Protein Source:
Pea soup provides a good source of plant-based protein, crucial for muscle building and overall bodily functions.
Fiber Rich:
The fiber content in peas promotes digestive health, aids in regulating blood sugar levels, and contributes to feelings of fullness, which can be beneficial for weight management.
Nutrient-Rich:
Pea soup contains essential vitamins and minerals, including magnesium, which plays a role in muscle function and bone density, and potassium, which helps regulate blood pressure.
Heart Health Support:
The fiber in peas can help lower LDL cholesterol, contributing to a reduced risk of heart disease.
Blood Sugar Control:
The fiber and protein in peas can slow down the absorption of sugar into the bloodstream, potentially aiding in blood sugar management, especially for individuals with type 2 diabetes.
Antioxidant Properties:
Peas contain antioxidants that can help protect the body against damage from free radicals, which can contribute to inflammation and chronic diseases.
Eye Health:
Peas are a source of lutein and zeaxanthin, carotenoids that may help protect eyes from damage caused by blue light and oxidative stress.
Potential Cancer Protection:
Some studies suggest that the compounds in peas may have a protective effect against certain types of cancer.
Specific Considerations:
Magnesium:
Pea soup is a good source of magnesium, which is essential for various bodily functions, including muscle contraction and bone health.
Iron:
Pea soup provides iron, which is important for maintaining healthy red blood cells and oxygen transport in the body.
Potassium:
Peas are naturally rich in potassium, a mineral that helps regulate blood pressure.
Low Glycemic Index:
The low glycemic index of peas means they are less likely to cause sudden spikes in blood sugar after consumption.

My main complaint is that kosher food / kosher dinning is so geared towards junk food.

You want brown rice with that? $2 more.. what $2? It's 5 cents more cost.

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Brown rice is generally considered healthier than white rice due to its higher fiber content, more nutrients, and lower glycemic index. While white rice can be a good option for some, particularly those with digestive sensitivities, brown rice offers a more nutrient-rich and potentially beneficial choice for overall health.
Here's a more detailed comparison:
Brown Rice:
Nutrient-Rich:
Brown rice retains the outer bran and germ layers, providing more fiber, B vitamins, magnesium, potassium, and iron.
Higher Fiber:
The higher fiber content in brown rice helps with digestion, promotes satiety, and can help regulate blood sugar levels.
Lower Glycemic Index:
Brown rice has a lower glycemic index compared to white rice, meaning it releases glucose into the bloodstream more slowly, potentially reducing the risk of type 2 diabetes.
Potentially Beneficial for Weight Management:
The higher fiber content and lower glycemic index of brown rice can aid in weight management by promoting feelings of fullness and helping to regulate blood sugar levels.

It's only that I've been focused on fiber intake that I realize, everything I can order kosher on Ubereats is simultaneously unhealthy and fiber deficient.

Why?

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Re: Healthy eating in frum world
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2025, 07:05:11 AM »
Why?
Because sugar & carbs taste good and business sell what people like :)

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Re: Healthy eating in frum world
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2025, 07:22:40 AM »
I ordered a chicken salad (because Yeshiva's food today doesn't currently qualify for my diet restrictions) and also got someone else's order (customer service told me to keep it). Included in the order was a "chalat batzal" - basically a mountain of really unhealthy-looking fried onions in batter. I couldn't find anyone willing to take it. TBH, I'm not sure what the use-case is (add it to a sandwich? The other guy's order came without any sandwiches).

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Re: Healthy eating in frum world
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2025, 08:40:48 AM »
Onion Bread? Commonly served at weddings?

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Re: Healthy eating in frum world
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2025, 08:43:30 AM »
Onion Bread? Commonly served at weddings?
No.

basically a mountain of really unhealthy-looking fried onions in batter
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Re: Healthy eating in frum world
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2025, 09:13:07 AM »
So bigger question, why does frum world eat so unhealthy?

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Re: Healthy eating in frum world
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2025, 09:14:09 AM »
You want brown rice with that? $2 more.. what $2? It's 5 cents more cost.
You're not paying for the extra few cents it costs for the raw ingredient, you're paying for them to make a separate item, especially if they often need to throw a lot of it out.
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Re: Healthy eating in frum world
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2025, 09:31:34 AM »
So bigger question, why does frum world eat so unhealthy?
I don't think this issue is limited to the "Frum" world.

I'm more curious to compare food being eaten by frum people in North America compared to the rest of the world.
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Re: Healthy eating in frum world
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Re: Healthy eating in frum world
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2025, 10:01:55 AM »
I ordered a chicken salad (because Yeshiva's food today doesn't currently qualify for my diet restrictions) and also got someone else's order (customer service told me to keep it). Included in the order was a "chalat batzal" - basically a mountain of really unhealthy-looking fried onions in batter. I couldn't find anyone willing to take it. TBH, I'm not sure what the use-case is (add it to a sandwich? The other guy's order came without any sandwiches).

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Re: Healthy eating in frum world
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2025, 12:47:40 AM »
Blooming onion in English
Unbelievable onion in Dougies :D
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Re: Healthy eating in frum world
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2025, 12:51:42 AM »
I don't think this issue is limited to the "Frum" world.

I'm more curious to compare food being eaten by frum people in North America compared to the rest of the world.
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saw this last night
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mcdonalds-downgrade-weight-loss-drugs/

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Re: Healthy eating in frum world
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2025, 10:26:58 AM »
username checks out :)
but +1
saw this last night
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mcdonalds-downgrade-weight-loss-drugs/

I love burgers, but after all these years my brain and body recognizes that eating healthy will be good for my stomach and overall feeling and most burgers leave me feeling yucky


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Re: Healthy eating in frum world
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2025, 10:39:51 AM »
I love burgers, but after all these years my brain and body recognizes that eating healthy will be good for my stomach and overall feeling and most burgers leave me feeling yucky
R' Berkovits is fond of quoting the Rambam as saying that our minds are supposed to control our bodies and emotions. Working on ourselves should eventually result in a lack of desire for things that are bad for us (both physically and spiritually). He compares a child's desire to a lollypop lying on the floor, covered in dirt after someone else licked it, to an adult's natural disgust to such a thing.
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Re: Healthy eating in frum world
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2025, 11:23:55 AM »
I don't eat out or order in often, but when I do I want the best tasting. But I will say that as I get older, my tastes did change and I tend to order the "healthier" option.

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Re: Healthy eating in frum world
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2025, 08:26:35 PM »
I don't eat out or order in often, but when I do I want the best tasting. But I will say that as I get older, my tastes did change and I tend to order the "healthier" option plant hot peppers.
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Re: Healthy eating in frum world
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2025, 12:09:02 AM »
R' Berkovits is fond of quoting the Rambam as saying that our minds are supposed to control our bodies and emotions. Working on ourselves should eventually result in a lack of desire for things that are bad for us (both physically and spiritually). He compares a child's desire to a lollypop lying on the floor, covered in dirt after someone else licked it, to an adult's natural disgust to such a thing.

Right. So if you just do it enough time and you realize that if you keep eating that food it's going to make you feel like crap. Then it was the desire for it. Of course you want it. But you also know better.

I mean I love wine and I could drink it endlessly. I would never run out but I would feel like crap


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Re: Healthy eating in frum world
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2025, 01:18:24 AM »
I love burgers, but after all these years my brain and body recognizes that eating healthy will be good for my stomach and overall feeling and most burgers leave me feeling yucky
Burgers are healthy. The question is what you are getting with the burgers.

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Re: Healthy eating in frum world
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2025, 01:19:34 AM »
Right. So if you just do it enough time and you realize that if you keep eating that food it's going to make you feel like crap. Then it was the desire for it. Of course you want it. But you also know better.

I mean I love wine and I could drink it endlessly. I would never run out but I would feel like crap
I watched several people after they were diagnosed as celiac. As soon as they knew what foods made them feel so horrible, they immediately lost any appetite for them - even what had been their favorite food the week before.
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