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Re: Avatars
« Reply #140 on: March 20, 2013, 12:42:46 PM »
In computing, an avatar is the graphical representation of the user or the user's alter ego or character. It may take either a three-dimensional form,[1] as in games or virtual worlds, or a two-dimensional form as an icon in Internet forums and other online communities.[2][3] It can also refer to a text construct found on early systems such as MUDs.[4] It is an object representing the user. The term "avatar" can also refer to the personality connected with the screen name, or handle, of an Internet user.[5]
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Re: Avatars
« Reply #141 on: March 20, 2013, 12:45:04 PM »
In computing, an avatar is the graphical representation of the user or the user's alter ego or character. It may take either a three-dimensional form,[1] as in games or virtual worlds, or a two-dimensional form as an icon in Internet forums and other online communities.[2][3] It can also refer to a text construct found on early systems such as MUDs.[4] It is an object representing the user. The term "avatar" can also refer to the personality connected with the screen name, or handle, of an Internet user.[5]
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But in DDF it is sort of a profile pic.

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Re: Avatars
« Reply #142 on: March 20, 2013, 12:54:31 PM »
+1 Definitely an accepted fact among  all lithuanian jewry for the last 250 years,  it has a very strong oral tradition with halachic implications. It very different than the golem story. 
I never heard, in my community any doubt that he existed.
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I am researching this right now and will have some info shortly.

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As to why there are few full sources, the Jewish view is reflected as in this excerpt from the Shema Yisrael Torah Network website:

    There are a few reasons why there are so few contemporary sources about the ger tzedek story. It can be assumed that the noble Pototzki family, which was a religious Polish-Catholic family, was not happy that one of their sons defected to Judaism. The Pototzki family was said to have generally dealt kindly with the Jews living on its lands. Mentioning the conversion would have been interpreted as an open provocation of the area's ruler, which would have not resulted in any good. In addition, undoubtedly the conversion of one of the upper-class gentiles aroused great interest among the populace, and his refusal to return to their faith caused them great embarrassment ... Nevertheless, we believe the words of our rabbis, which clearly indicate that there was a connection between the Gra (i.e. the Vilna Gaon) and the Ger Tzedek

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Re: Avatars
« Reply #143 on: March 20, 2013, 01:04:17 PM »
As to why there are few full sources, the Jewish view is reflected as in this excerpt from the Shema Yisrael Torah Network website:

    There are a few reasons why there are so few contemporary sources about the ger tzedek story. It can be assumed that the noble Pototzki family, which was a religious Polish-Catholic family, was not happy that one of their sons defected to Judaism. The Pototzki family was said to have generally dealt kindly with the Jews living on its lands. Mentioning the conversion would have been interpreted as an open provocation of the area's ruler, which would have not resulted in any good. In addition, undoubtedly the conversion of one of the upper-class gentiles aroused great interest among the populace, and his refusal to return to their faith caused them great embarrassment ... Nevertheless, we believe the words of our rabbis, which clearly indicate that there was a connection between the Gra (i.e. the Vilna Gaon) and the Ger Tzedek

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Re: Avatars
« Reply #144 on: March 20, 2013, 01:28:30 PM »
Here's from Rabbo Jacob Emden also known as Ya'avetz, (b. June 4, 1697, Altona - d. April 19, 1776, Altona) who lived during that period (1749).

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מה אירע בימינו לפני איזה שנים בווילנא ראש מדינת ליטא, שנתגייר שר גדול מגזע פאטאצקא ותפשוהו וחבשוהו ימים רבים בחשבם שיחזור לדתם, ואע"פ שהיה יודע כי לא ימלט מעשות בו יסורין קשים ומיתה אכזרית, אם עודנו לא ישוב, והם היו חפצים להצילו ממות ומעונש קשה ומר ממות, שהיה מעותד לו אם יעמוד בדעתו, ולא פנה עליהם ולא לתחנת אמו השררה, לא חשב גזומם, ולא תאות וחשק הנאת עולמם, לא פחד ולא דאג למות בכל היסורים המרים שעשו לו, אחר שהמתינו לו זמן רב , חסו עליו מאוד לכבוד משפחתו, והוא לעג לכל פיתויי הכומרים המדברים אליו יום יום כמנהגם ברוב דבריהם ביחוד לשר חשוב כזה שחק להם בזה להם, ובחר מות ארוך וערוך לפניו עם יסורים אכזרים משונים מאוד, מחיי עולם עובר, קבל וסבל הכל מאהבה ומת על ק"ה, תנצב"ה.
http://jnul.huji.ac.il/dl/books/djvu/1103395/index.djvu page 25B

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Re: Avatars
« Reply #145 on: March 20, 2013, 01:35:17 PM »
Here's the text

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Re: Avatars
« Reply #146 on: March 20, 2013, 01:42:29 PM »
Here's from Rabbo Jacob Emden also known as Ya'avetz, (b. June 4, 1697, Altona - d. April 19, 1776, Altona) who lived during that period (1749).
http://jnul.huji.ac.il/dl/books/djvu/1103395/index.djvu page 25B
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Re: Avatars
« Reply #147 on: March 20, 2013, 03:37:49 PM »
+1 Definitely an accepted fact among  all lithuanian jewry for the last 250 years,  it has a very strong oral tradition with halachic implications. It very different than the golem story. 
I never heard, in my community any doubt that he existed.
Rav Shlomo Zalman Aurbach had a Mesorah from the GRA, that netilas yadayim shacharis was more lenient after the ger tzedek's death.

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Re: Avatars
« Reply #148 on: March 20, 2013, 03:58:37 PM »
Rav Shlomo Zalman Aurbach had a Mesorah from the GRA, that netilas yadayim shacharis was more lenient after the ger tzedek's death.
Just curious who says RSZ said that

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Re: Avatars
« Reply #149 on: March 20, 2013, 08:10:31 PM »
Just curious who says RSZ said that
Halichos Shlomo.

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Re: Avatars
« Reply #150 on: March 20, 2013, 11:24:06 PM »
Rav Shlomo Zalman Aurbach had a Mesorah from the GRA, that netilas yadayim shacharis was more lenient after the ger tzedek's death.
I also heard directly from a einikel of the chofetz chaim that although in mishna berura he writes that the whole house is ke'daled amos, lemaseh they were/are noheg not to wash by the bed for the same reason that Rs"z says.

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Re: Avatars
« Reply #151 on: March 20, 2013, 11:57:48 PM »
From Wikipedia
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According to Jewish tradition, following Avraham ben Avraham's death, the Vilna Gaon believed that the spiritual constitution of the world had become altered in such a way that a Jew was no longer bound to wash his hands in the morning within four amot (cubits) of his bed, as explicitly taught in the codes of Jewish law such as the Shulchan Aruch and other halachic works. Rather, a Jew's entire house would be considered as four amot for this mitzvah. This custom, begun at Avraham ben Avraham's death, commenced with the Vilna Gaon and later became the practice of the Slabodka yeshiva in Europe, becoming today the routine of many leading Israeli rabbis who follow the Slabodka tradition.[5]

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Re: Avatars
« Reply #152 on: March 21, 2013, 12:04:05 AM »
I don't understand the connection between the ger tzedek's death and washing netillas yedayim in the morning. Sounds so random.

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« Reply #153 on: March 21, 2013, 12:16:30 AM »
I don't understand the connection between the ger tzedek's death and washing netillas yedayim in the morning. Sounds so random.

 We wash our hand because of  טומאה,  his קדוש שם שמים  weakened the כח הטומאה.

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Re: Avatars
« Reply #154 on: March 21, 2013, 12:25:28 AM »
From Wikipedia
The source on wikipedia for it is:
" This story was related by Rabbi Ostroff, posek and student of Rav Sternbuch of Jerusalem, as well as Rabbi Hadar Margolin and the ArtScroll biography of the Vilna Gaon."


Rav Shterenbuch is a direct decendant of the GRA.

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Re: Avatars
« Reply #155 on: March 21, 2013, 12:31:26 AM »
We wash our hand because of  טומאה,  his קדוש שם שמים  weakened the כח הטומאה.

1/4 reasons, yes.

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Re: Avatars
« Reply #156 on: March 21, 2013, 12:45:46 AM »
1/4 reasons, yes.
??? That was the GRA's reason according to tradition.

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Re: Avatars
« Reply #157 on: March 21, 2013, 01:08:58 AM »
??? That was the GRA's reason according to tradition.

Well I should be more clear. The reason we wash hands in the morning is for one of 4 reasons, including Tumah. 

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Re: Avatars
« Reply #158 on: March 21, 2013, 01:28:29 AM »
Well I should be more clear. The reason we wash hands in the morning is for one of 4 reasons, including Tumah.
The Gra was more meikel in daled amos halacha, it could be that part is only because of Tumah.

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Re: Avatars
« Reply #159 on: March 21, 2013, 02:24:14 AM »
I also heard directly from a einikel of the chofetz chaim that although in mishna berura he writes that the whole house is ke'daled amos, lemaseh they were/are noheg not to wash by the bed for the same reason that Rs"z says.
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