Israel elections

[efflpetzel]

I don't blame Shas. Most of those votes were BY votes

unfortunately your right

 

If somehow labor gets in to the coalition then the Arabs become the head of the opposition.  They would then be entitled to weekly security updates and other privileges 

thats not happening, Likud have no reason + 0 interest in creating a coalition with labour

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Is this considered a landside for Bibi?

[elit]

I only follow Israeli politics on a superficial level but it seems Netanyahu is one heck of a politician....

[avremel]

Is this considered a landside for Bibi?

Absolutely, guaranteed broad right wing coalition, against all odds. No polls predicted it, the media elite went all out to destroy Bibi, it just came back as a boomerang. וכמאמר העולם: פיש אויף מיר קאק אויף מיר אבער אבי אויף מיר

Charedim, on the one hand have won since they are in while Lapid is out, on the other hand only 13 seats total bc of Yishai and Bnei Torah which is a historical low.

I read here that Yishai took voters from BY. Part of that is true re chardal votes, but he also took anyone who was disappointed with established charedi leadership, working charedim, sefardim who hate deri, etc.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Absolutely, guaranteed broad right wing coalition.

Charedim, on the one hand have won since they are in while Lapid is out, on the other hand only 13 seats total bc of Yishai and Bnei Torah which is a historical low.

I read here that Yishai took voters from BY. Part of that is true re chardal votes, but he also took anyone who was disappointed with established charedi leadership, working charedim, sefardim who hate deri, etc.

How does this effect US/Israel relations or is it a non issue?

[Achas Veachas]

Absolutely, guaranteed broad right wing coalition.

Charedim, on the one hand have won since they are in while Lapid is out, on the other hand only 13 seats total bc of Yishai and Bnei Torah which is a historical low.

I read here that Yishai took voters from BY. Part of that is true re chardal votes, but he also took anyone who was disappointed with established charedi leadership, working charedim, sefardim who hate deri, etc.

+1
Just look at the Kfar Chabad results, 3/4 of the town's vote went to the trash, I can only imagine the numbers are similar in other Chabad areas...

[Achas Veachas]

How does this effect US/Israel relations or is it a non issue?

Ecclesiastes 1:9

[avremel]

+1
Just look at the Kfar Chabad results, 3/4 of the town's vote went to the trash, I can only imagine the numbers are similar in other Chabad areas...

Yes back to age old question, should Chabad vote for the perfect party ideologically (Yishai's party fitts the bill lekulei alma) at the expense of wasting votes?

If marzel had his own party like last elections, the Mishechist elements would anyways vote for them with emuna pshuta, they are kimat kahanists.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Ecclesiastes 1:9

You could of just said non-issue.

[Achas Veachas]

Yes back to age old question, should Chabad vote for the perfect party ideologically (Yishai's party fitts the bill lekulei alma) at the expense of wasting votes?

If marzel had his own party like last elections, the Mishechist elements would anyways vote for them with emuna pshuta, they are kimat kahanists.

I long ago gave up on Chabad in Israel acting in a rational way...

[Achas Veachas]

You could of just said non-issue.

But then no one would realize how smart I am...

[avremel]

I long ago gave up on Chabad in Israel acting in a rational way...

The Q is why Charedi media/poloticians make such a big deal of the Chabad vote 1) numbers are low 2) no leadership making decisions,  hence fractured block. Only limmud zchus is that Chabad are the only swing voters in the Charedi block, everyone else follows their Rebbe/Rov.

[avremel]

Bibi somehow succeeded in getting 30 seats (at least 4 seats from BY,) with his fear mongering tactic that if Likkud isn't big enough, the left might form coalition (BY #2 already blamed bibi for this).

Besides for Iran fear mongering. And besides for "Arabs are being bussed to the polls" fear mongering. Bekitzur a talented politician. Yarich yomim al mamlachtoi - he is about to take over Gurion.

[chaimmayer]

How does this effect US/Israel relations or is it a non issue?

Someone said if Obama in spite of trying to stop bibi couldn't stop him and bibi actually won by a landslide you,can imagine how successful he'll be at stopping Iran from going nuclear.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Someone said if Obama in spite of trying to stop bibi couldn't stop him and bibi actually won by a landslide you,can imagine how successful he'll be at stopping Iran from going nuclear.

Maybe OBL can answer that. On second thought I don't think he can. 

[Malachi]

If Lieberman won't give in to his demands that the Chaveirim get criminal sanctions how can Bibi get a coalition with the right wing excluding lapid?

[damaxer91]

If Lieberman won't give in to his demands that the Chaveirim get criminal sanctions how can Bibi get a coalition with the right wing excluding lapid?

Possible that once the results are finalized Yachad gets in or BY gets another

[Achas Veachas]

Possible that once the results are finalized Yachad gets in or BY gets another

Haven't they finished counting already?

[avremel]

If Lieberman won't give in to his demands that the Chaveirim get criminal sanctions how can Bibi get a coalition with the right wing excluding lapid?

It won't be the first zigzag on Ivet's part

[avremel]

Haven't they finished counting already?

waiting for chayalim, which generally vote more right wing