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PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #100 on:** January 25, 2013, 02:21:59 AM »

Quote from: yuneeq on January 25, 2013, 01:04:18 AM

Yet again the answer is that our Hashkafos never changed. The world changed drastically in regards to women's rights, and the opportunity for a woman to make money has never been brighter. I can imagine that 200 years ago a similar amount of women would go out to work if given the opportunity.

Even without that, the women being the sole bread winner is only a temporary situation, that in 95% of the yeshiva world, lasts only a couple years.

Society changed

Achas Veachas · « **Reply #101 on:** January 25, 2013, 08:02:43 AM »

I'm pretty sure that if women went to work 100 years ago the Rabbonim would have been all out against (Kol Kevudah Bas Melech Pnimah). Ein Hachi Nami the times have changed but that DID also bring about changes in Hashkafos. As much as some people like to think that way, no one is immune to change.

yuneeq · « **Reply #102 on:** January 25, 2013, 08:13:02 AM »

Quote from: Achas Veachas on January 25, 2013, 08:02:43 AM

I'm pretty sure that if women went to work 100 years ago the Rabbonim would have been all out against (Kol Kevudah Bas Melech Pnimah). Ein Hachi Nami the times have changed but that DID also bring about changes in Hashkafos. As much as some people like to think that way, no one is immune to change.

As long as there are no tznius issues involved, I can't see rabbis from 100 years ago going to war against women working.

Achas Veachas · « **Reply #103 on:** January 25, 2013, 08:56:31 AM »

Quote from: yuneeq on January 25, 2013, 08:13:02 AM

As long as there are no tznius issues involved, I can't see rabbis from 100 years ago going to war against women working.

Shows how much we've changed that we can't even imagine it being different once. Not too long ago, just leaving the house was considered a Tznius issue. There is a Tshuvah from R' Moshe regarding if a woman can have a Drivers license. IINM He's Matir but very B'Dochak and only for a Tzorech Gadol.

Ergel · « **Reply #104 on:** January 25, 2013, 09:32:08 AM »

Many poskim think that any work environment which includes men is a beach of tznius

yuneeq · « **Reply #105 on:** January 25, 2013, 09:38:22 AM »

Quote from: Ergel on January 25, 2013, 09:32:08 AM

Many poskim think that any work environment which includes men is a beach of tznius

Exactly. Which proves my point that society has changed while the hashkafos have not.

Ergel · « **Reply #106 on:** January 25, 2013, 09:44:39 AM »

Quote from: yuneeq on January 25, 2013, 09:38:22 AM

Exactly. Which proves my point that society has changed while the hashkafos have not.

And yet other poskim don't have a problem with it. When 200 years ago everyone would have had a problem with women writing in any environment

elikay · « **Reply #107 on:** January 25, 2013, 09:50:04 AM »

Quote from: yuneeq on January 24, 2013, 11:54:45 AM

Charedim for the past couple hundred years have always been called orthodox. I would call them more accurately, Traditional Orthodox. Came around some rabbis, and successfully sparked a break off of Traditional orthodoxy, something now known as Modern Orthodox.

I'm not coming to bash modox, as modox are obviously religious. But Modox ain't orthodox and orthodox ain't modox. So when saying you're orthodox, you are charedi, as there is no other option.

We actually have seen similar movements, such as the misyavnim.

Ergel · « **Reply #108 on:** January 25, 2013, 09:53:27 AM »

I hope you're booking

damaxer91 · « **Reply #109 on:** February 20, 2013, 02:59:42 PM »

After all of the empty rhetoric, it seems that Shas will be a a part of the coalition after all..........

http://www.timesofisrael.com/shas-close-to-joining-coalition-will-get-3-ministerial-posts/

yuneeq · « **Reply #110 on:** February 20, 2013, 03:34:00 PM »

Quote from: damaxer91 on February 20, 2013, 02:59:42 PM

After all of the empty rhetoric, it seems that Shas will be a a part of the coalition after all..........

http://www.timesofisrael.com/shas-close-to-joining-coalition-will-get-3-ministerial-posts/

They always wanted to join. Question was how bad of deal they're gonna have to accept...

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #111 on:** February 21, 2013, 12:56:43 AM »

It seems obvious by now that Bibi, Livni, Labor and chardeim will be the next government. The question is how high of a price Bibbi will have to pay Sheli.

Achas Veachas · « **Reply #112 on:** February 28, 2013, 07:38:52 PM »

looks like Bibi-Banet-Lapid is pretty much final. Charedim are out.

damaxer91 · « **Reply #113 on:** February 28, 2013, 09:36:55 PM »

Quote from: Achas Veachas on February 28, 2013, 07:38:52 PM

looks like Bibi-Banet-Lapid is pretty much final. Charedim are out.

Aint over till its over

yuneeq · « **Reply #114 on:** March 01, 2013, 01:16:12 AM »

Quote from: yuneeq on January 24, 2013, 11:38:20 AM

Right now, I'm banking on the extremism of the parties to break or prevent a coalition in the coming months. We'll have new elections which will strengthen both likud and shas to help form a strong right wing government.

I still stand by my words. I don't think the coalition is gonna formed just yet.

Moshe123 · « **Reply #115 on:** November 21, 2013, 11:51:29 PM »

Lovely.
Shelly Yachimovich lost reelection for Labor leadership.

Bostener · « **Reply #116 on:** November 22, 2013, 12:03:23 AM »

Who is replacing him?

Moshe123 · « **Reply #117 on:** November 22, 2013, 12:38:52 AM »

Yitzchak "Bougie" Herzog.

Bostener · « **Reply #118 on:** November 22, 2013, 01:14:10 AM »

Never heard of him. Is he better?

Moshe123 · « **Reply #119 on:** November 22, 2013, 01:24:44 AM »

Marginally

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