The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live

[Freddie]

There is a community on the east side of Denver. The other locations I mentioned are more likely just Chabad houses.

Not a real community. Great people there, but sorry, it's not a place that a chosid should move to without a very compelling reason, and the Chabad "community" ain't one of them.

[@Yehuda]

Not a real community. Great people there, but sorry, it's not a place that a chosid should move to without a very compelling reason, and the Chabad "community" ain't one of them.

I probably know just about nothing regarding Chassidim and specifically Chabad, so I think I will bow out now. I know it's nowhere close to the size of CH or PIT, but I also know it's bigger than the Chabad houses I've visited. No idea what OP is looking for, though.

[abo456]

Can you add anything jewish-wise? schools, shuls etc

Jewish community is not any were near as big as LA so you will comparatively be limited in choices.  In San Diego the Jewish community is mostly concentrated around university city, la jolla, and carmel valley, all of which are lovely areas near the coast but are pretty expensive (at least 800k for a single family detached house, over $400k for a condo).  The more affordable areas of san diego, mostly inland, the Jewish community is non-existent.  There is a Chabad center in university city and one in poway, san diego jewish academy (k-12) in carmel valley. The public school in carmel valley (torrey pines high school) observes Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur as school hoildays since there a so many jewish students much of the school is absent on those days.

[ADG]

He's looking for a chabad community, not a chabad house

Yes thats correct. Are your answers applicable to the state Colorado or just Denver? 

[Freddie]

Yes thats correct. Are your answers applicable to the state Colorado or just Denver?

If I said what I said about Denver which is the biggest frum outpost in Colorado, then the rest of the state is al achas kama v'kama.

Where do you expect to find an anash community? In Boulder maybe with the potheads or in Aspen with the ski bums? 

No, Colorado is not a place for anyone looking for an anash community. Yes, there are some amazing shluchim there and a few devoted Chabad families, but that's not a reason why anyone should EVER willfully move there.

[ADG]

If I said what I said about Denver which is the biggest frum outpost in Colorado, then the rest of the state is al achas kama v'kama.

Where do you expect to find an anash community? In Boulder maybe with the potheads or in Aspen with the ski bums? 

No, Colorado is not a place for anyone looking for an anash community. Yes, there are some amazing shluchim there and a few devoted Chabad families, but that's not a reason why anyone should EVER willfully move there.

I guess ill continue looking to find our place. ( im looking for a chabad comunity with a chabad school , fresh air with back yards and all in all a good quality of living ( open to outside of the US))  suggestions ?

[TimT]

I guess ill continue looking to find our place. ( im looking for a chabad comunity with a chabad school , fresh air with back yards and all in all a good quality of living ( open to outside of the US))  suggestions ?

You're ready to go anywhere (literally) that has a chabad community, fresh air, & backyards ? What about work ?

[Freddie]

I guess ill continue looking to find our place. ( im looking for a chabad comunity with a chabad school , fresh air with back yards and all in all a good quality of living ( open to outside of the US))  suggestions ?

If you want a Chabad school why did you even consider DEN?

For a Chabad school you have a few picks: NYC, ORD, LAX, MIA, DTW, and the yotzei doifen of them all PIT. There ain't that many options. Unless you want to start including a Chabad run community day school that is really for mekurovim and not for your kids.

Of the cities I mentioned above, the only one that has "fresh air with back yards and all in all a good quality of living" is PIT. And it's the most affordable (on par with DTW.)

[Shmelly]

Is there a Woodmere thread? Or can anyone help me with figuring out the various neighborhoods in Woodmere?

[coralsnake]

Is there a Woodmere thread? Or can anyone help me with figuring out the various neighborhoods in Woodmere?

Youre best bet is here:
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=32704.0

[ADG]

You're ready to go anywhere (literally) that has a chabad community, fresh air, & backyards ? What about work ?

I make a 'ok" living here in BK , its nothing that i couldn't make elsewhere . so im making lemonade I get to choose where i want to live, something i wouldnt be able to do if i had a proper career ... 

[ADG]

If you want a Chabad school why did you even consider DEN?

For a Chabad school you have a few picks: NYC, ORD, LAX, MIA, DTW, and the yotzei doifen of them all PIT. There ain't that many options. Unless you want to start including a Chabad run community day school that is really for mekurovim and not for your kids.

Of the cities I mentioned above, the only one that has "fresh air with back yards and all in all a good quality of living" is PIT. And it's the most affordable (on par with DTW.)

thanks for the brake down:)

[Dan]

Like Freddie said, not too many options if a chabad school is a must.  Plenty more options if you're just looking for a community of anash and are OK with a non-chabad elementary school.

[Freddie]

Like Freddie said, not too many options if a chabad school is a must.  Plenty more options if you're just looking for a community of anash and are OK with a non-chabad elementary school.

Dan will even tell you that a non-Chabad primary education will make you into even more of a farbrenter chosid. 

[ADG]

Like Freddie said, not too many options if a chabad school is a must.  Plenty more options if you're just looking for a community of anash and are OK with a non-chabad elementary school.

I am listening... elementary is just elementary...

[ADG]

Dan will even tell you that a non-Chabad primary education will make you into even more of a farbrenter chosid. 

I would say that the proof for his argument is in the pudding... unfortunately

[Dan]

I am listening... elementary is just elementary...

CLE of course
Among many other places, but CLE's anash is growing by several families a year due to its affordability and suburban feel.

[ADG]

CLE of course
Among many other places, but CLE's anash is growing by several families a year due to its affordability and suburban feel.

I bet they move in the summer ... Well I did grow up in the Midwest and kinda like the NY winter because it short . How many months of winter does CLE get (from start to end)?
also how many families live there?

[Dan]

Lol, well summer here is pretty awesome, upper 70s and not humid like NYC. April through September are lovely.

Depends how you define winter.  The worst of it is Jan and Feb and it snows a ton then.  Though temps aren't as cold as further midwest like ORD.
I don't think winter season is any longer than NYC. 

Where did you grow up?

[Freddie]

@ADG, half of this thread is about CLE. Every discussion seems to lead back to that point. 

Just go through the 95 pages. If you're serious about moving, it will be a very good use of even a couple of hours to do so.