The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live

[Dan]

Right, but it's hard to get hard data on Jewish communities, so you take what you can get.
My guess is that the Cleveland number is much closer to reality for a decent home costs in a Jewish community than the LA and NYC numbers. And that just makes the point that much stronger.

[yesitsme]

Oy... Too true

Oy..

I went to look @ advertised 3 Bedroom Apt for only $23,00/Month.
I got there I found a 2 floor 1 family house Split into Two 3 Bedroom Apt, 1 Apt, per floor.
the
Master bedroom => Dining Room
Walk-in Closet => Bedroom #1
Child,-Bdr split wall => #2, And #3 ['Master-Bedroom'].
 
Oy....

[cozmohoot]

Fair enough.

FTR, I'm not debating your core argument here. I just don't think you can use these lists --which don't take into consideration the unique needs of the frum community-- as proof of anything. I don't care what the median home price is in the whole metro area, I care what it is in the specific neighborhood(s) I would live in.
They list $410k for NYC. I don't know if you can even get a studio apt for that in Crown Heights these days. You're not getting a house for less than a million without venturing out into the, for lack of a better word, "darker" parts of town.

Marine Park has plenty under 500. Not big, but beats baying rent...

[Achas Veachas]

Chalila. How would your daughter get a shidduch?

You'll find her a Chosson aligned with her Hashkafah?

[grodnoking]

Move to queens all you New Yorkers

[Yehoshua]

Move to queens all you New Yorkers

While I lived in Queens for a while and would be my choice of where to live if I had to live in NYC, moving out is always the best choice (when practical).

[grodnoking]

While I lived in Queens for a while and would be my choice of where to live if I had to live in NYC, moving out is always the best choice (when practical).

My point exactly!
If you need to work in the city port authority is  a 17 min train ride.

[Ergel]

You'll find her a Chosson aligned with her Hashkafah?

But he went to a school aligned with frummer hashkafa because he wanted a girl...

[Ergel]

Toronto guess the price game:
Bakery run for shabbos
1 large raisin challah
6 rolls
2 brownie bars
Small container of sprinkle cookies
Quart of soup

[Achas Veachas]

But he went to a school aligned with frummer hashkafa because he wanted a girl...

Ad Kan Hakofoh Alef...

[Super Speed]

Toronto guess the price game:
Bakery run for shabbos
1 large raisin challah
6 rolls
2 brownie bars
Small container of sprinkle cookies
Quart of soup

$14?

[EJB]

Dan, you never answered the question: Are your total housing costs $700 a month???

I'm guessing few in the Jewish community area pay  anywhere near that. Especially since that equates to a $250k loan with 0% interest and no property tax/insurance. With 3.75%/30y interest and no property tax, that payment increases to $1167. With 1.75% property tax, that payment increases to $1576 a year.

I admit that I'm simplifying things a bit, but $700 is unreasonable IMO.

[jj1000]

Dan, you never answered the question: Are your total housing costs $700 a month???

I'm guessing few in the Jewish community area pay  anywhere near that. Especially since that equates to a $250k loan with 0% interest and no property tax/insurance. With 3.75%/30y interest and no property tax, that payment increases to $1167. With 1.75% property tax, that payment increases to $1576 a year.

I admit that I'm simplifying things a bit, but $700 is unreasonable IMO.

Skipping the math for a second, you wrote a $250K loan when many buy their house for $150K...

[EJB]

Skipping the math for a second, you wrote a $250K loan when many buy their house for $150K...

Yup, that's about the average sales price in Beachwood acc to Zillow. What would you say the norm  is in the Jewish community?

[Dan]

Yup, that's about the average sales price in Beachwood acc to Zillow. What would you say the norm  is in the Jewish community?

In University Heights my friends have all paid between $90K and $140K. Average is prob $120K.

Personally I bought in Beachwood, but the joke is on me.  The UH school system has gotten so bad that kids entering Kindergarten this year will get free private school vouchers for life. And there's no signs of their system improving..

[lunatic]

In University Heights my friends have all paid between $90K and $140K. Average is prob $120K.

Personally I bought in Beachwood, but the joke is on me.  The UH school system has gotten so bad that kids entering Kindergarten this year will get free private school vouchers for life. And there's no signs of their system improving..

So why aren't you moving

[Dan]

So why aren't you moving

There are a lot of factors at play, I believe I posted them earlier in this thread.

[Ergel]

$14?

$32

[EJB]

I would say that my job is the reason I'm not moving, but one of my largest clients is in CLE.

It's mostly family. If I could convince my wife to move outside of tri-state, it would probably be to Israel (no offense to CLE).

[Dan]

$32

Crazy.
Though buying raisin challah may be even crazier