The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live

[Yehoshua]

Public transportation is not cheaper than a 15 min ride with no tolls.
You can listen to a shiur, etc. It's not like we're talking about an hour drive. You should all really try a short commute. It's really something else.

I have a 7-minutes bike ride, 1.5 miles. I'd take that over a bus/train and day.

[Yehoshua]

As long as you have free/easy parking, then of course you're better off driving up to 15 minutes. How is this even an argument?

You can have free/easy parking and tons of traffic making a 15 minute commute a lot longer.

[Dan]

My commute is 7 minutes without traffic or 9-13 minutes in rush hour, there's no way even the best public transport could beat that.

[Yehoshua]

My commute is 7 minutes without traffic or 9-13 minutes in rush hour, there's no way even the best public transport could beat that.

But you drive, so you have rush hour. Biking doesn't have rush hour.

[ExGingi]

As long as you have free/easy parking, then of course you're better off driving up to 15 minutes. How is this even an argument?

It is a matter of preference, not an argument about facts. And parking availability does make a difference.

However, I think I have it best. I walk to my office, most of my kids walk to school!

[ExGingi]

I have a 7-minutes bike ride, 1.5 miles. I'd take that over a bus/train and day.

+1

As long as weather is nice and as long as there's a decent place to park the bike.

[Yehoshua]

+1

As long as weather is nice and as long as there's a decent place to park the bike.

How far do you work from home (distance)? How often can/do you bike ride?

[elit]

My commute is 7 minutes without traffic or 9-13 minutes in rush hour, there's no way even the best public transport could beat that.

U have a commute?

[Dan]

U have a commute?

I've had an office for a couple of years now.

[Ergel]

I have a 7-minutes bike ride, 1.5 miles. I'd take that over a bus/train and day.

That's for sure.

[12HRS]

My commute is 7 minutes without traffic or 9-13 minutes in rush hour, there's no way even the best public transport could beat that.

Wait you commute? I always thought you worked from home...or maybe you mean 7 minutes to your ms place

[grodnoking]

may as well consider cost of owning car as well in both instances. anther plus of a good public commute is u only need one car for the family (less lease/insurance costs).

+1000. Plenty of people dont get a second car unless they have many children and want both a van and a car for convenience sake.

+100

having commuted both ways I much prefer public transportation besides the fact that its cheaper, I can eat, sleep be on my phone... I'd never be able to do these things driving in

Also +1000.

Side note is that the train (lirr) from queens on a friday afternoon takes the same 17 minutes as usual, while taking a car takes over an hour. (Driving to north pa, thru the city. Had one person drive his car and park it for work, and everyone else came in later on the train).

[grodnoking]

But you drive, so you have rush hour. Biking doesn't have rush hour.

Lol. Its actually very true. I've gotten to the city faster than traffic on a bike somedays.

[Dan]

may as well consider cost of owning car as well in both instances. anther plus of a good public commute is u only need one car for the family (less lease/insurance costs).

That's more of a concern in a city where parking is a massive hassle and insurance is sky-high.
In a city with 2 car attached garages, plenty of parking everywhere, and $12/month car (liability+comprehensive collison) insurance it's much less of a concern...

[churnbabychurn]

I car pool an 1:05 hours each way. Its better than a bus because it's more flexible/comfortable etc. OTH I still don't have the privacy of driving by myself. - driving with the same guys everyday single day is getting annoying ...

[yelped]

That's more of a concern in a city where parking is a massive hassle and insurance is sky-high.
In a city with 2 car attached garages, plenty of parking everywhere, and $12/month car (liability+comprehensive collison) insurance it's much less of a concern...

$12 a month?! I'm moving it costs me 11 times that amount and it's considered a very good price

[Dan]

$12 a month?! I'm moving it costs me 11 times that amount and it's considered a very good price

Honestly, if not for family, it boggles my mind why someone would choose to live in NYC. Nice to visit, but it's financial and lifestyle insanity.

[whacked1]

Honestly, if not for family, it boggles my mind why someone would choose to live in NYC. Nice to visit, but it's financial and lifestyle insanity.

Jobs!

[Dan]

Jobs!

And there are no jobs outside of NYC?

[whacked1]

And there are no jobs outside of NYC?

For your average yeshiva guy that isnt a "professional", I would say (no facts to back this up) its hard to find a job that can support a frum lifestyle.