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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1560 on: September 04, 2015, 11:24:20 AM »
So you think this can actually take off?

This a very unique situation. - a new litvish/yeshivish community in the tri state.
Forgive my ignorance but why is it any different than Waterbury?

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1561 on: September 04, 2015, 11:26:20 AM »
Isn't that the middle of nowhere?
Aka tristate?
Approx An hour from NYC?

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1562 on: September 04, 2015, 11:26:35 AM »
Forgive my ignorance but why is it any different than Waterbury?
Isn't that the middle of nowhere? This is 25 min from BP and NYC, 45 min to Monsey, 60 min to lakewood, etc

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1563 on: September 04, 2015, 11:27:10 AM »
Aka tristate?
Approx An hour from NYC?
90 min

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1564 on: September 04, 2015, 11:54:16 AM »

So how does this work? Whenever one of these best/worst lists has CLE at the bottom of the list it's talking about CLE proper but not Beachwood where the jews live, but when CLE is on top it applies to Beachwood?

I highly doubt the median home price for those few blocks near the shuls in Beachwood is what's listed there...

(though whatever it is, it's probably half what I pay for rent on my (relatively) little apartment in Brooklyn )

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1565 on: September 04, 2015, 11:59:21 AM »
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1566 on: September 04, 2015, 12:13:25 PM »
You can look for yourself at prices :)
Plenty of houses can be had in the $130 range.

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1567 on: September 04, 2015, 12:20:47 PM »
You can look for yourself at prices :)

Beachwood/University Heights community.
http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/41.513911,-81.47491,41.471544,-81.553531_rect/13_zm/a9bf555e9bX1-CRr4804t8n4l2l_151pt8_crid/1_fr/

Cleveland Heights community:
http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/41.518427,-81.531279,41.497248,-81.57059_rect/14_zm/a9bf655e9bX1-CRr4804t8nlfvx_151pt8_crid/1_fr/

Plenty of houses can be had in the $130 range.
I can't seem to find it now but I seem to remember you saying in the past how Beachwood is far superior to University Heights, yet here you're lumping them together?

It seems anything on the Beachwood side is a lot farther from the shuls and/or far more expensive...


Though all in all I must admit you do make it sound very enticing...

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1568 on: September 04, 2015, 12:21:18 PM »
... And let me add that Ms is 10x easier in cle than tristate

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1569 on: September 04, 2015, 12:22:19 PM »
... And let me add that Ms is 10x easier in cle than tristate

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1570 on: September 04, 2015, 12:29:21 PM »
I can't seem to find it now but I seem to remember you saying in the past how Beachwood is far superior to University Heights, yet here you're lumping them together?

It seems anything on the Beachwood side is a lot farther from the shuls and/or far more expensive...


Though all in all I must admit you do make it sound very enticing...
That's because I'm a Beachwood born snob ;)

The majority of the community and most of our friends live on UH side and are perfectly happy with it.

The growth going on now is insane. 7 years ago we moved here with practically no other chabad couples our age. Now there are 30 couples!
Same story in the non-chabad shuls.
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1571 on: September 04, 2015, 12:37:30 PM »
The growth going on now is insane. 7 years ago we moved here with practically no other chabad couples our age. Now there are 30 couples!
Same story in the non-chabad shuls.
I think that's just a generational thing that is expected to happen every 20 years or so.

When your parents moved 25 years ago there were lots of new couples, now those kids grew up and that age is moving in...
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1572 on: September 04, 2015, 12:41:42 PM »
I think that's just a generational thing that is expected to happen every 20 years or so.

When your parents moved 25 years ago there were lots of new couples, now those kids grew up and that age is moving in...
Except that half the couples have no connection to CLE.
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1573 on: September 04, 2015, 12:42:49 PM »
That's because I'm a Beachwood born snob ;)
There's gotta be more to it than that. just look at the disparity in availability and costs between the two

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1574 on: September 04, 2015, 12:43:58 PM »
There's gotta be more to it than that. just look at the disparity in availability and costs between the two
Of course there is, but whether it's worth the premium is highly debatable.
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1575 on: September 04, 2015, 12:44:47 PM »
Except that half the couples have no connection to CLE.
List them :P

I know 1 moved to law school largely because you were there, and another couple of them because they have family in the area.
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1576 on: September 04, 2015, 12:46:28 PM »
I think that's just a generational thing that is expected to happen every 20 years or so.

When your parents moved 25 years ago there were lots of new couples, now those kids grew up and that age is moving in...

um... is one of you adopted?  ;D
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1577 on: September 04, 2015, 12:49:30 PM »
List them :P

I know 1 moved to law school largely because you were there, and another couple of them because they have family in the area.
Because I was here or because that was the best school he got into?

Young Chabad couples who moved to CLE over the past few years where neither grew up in CLE? Off the top of my head I can think of at least 10
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1578 on: September 04, 2015, 01:00:38 PM »
Seems like a close knit community if you only know these people max 7 years and know their names and history. I guess that's oot life :)
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1579 on: September 04, 2015, 02:09:12 PM »
Of course there is, but whether it's worth the premium is highly debatable.
Fair enough.

FTR, I'm not debating your core argument here. I just don't think you can use these lists --which don't take into consideration the unique needs of the frum community-- as proof of anything. I don't care what the median home price is in the whole metro area, I care what it is in the specific neighborhood(s) I would live in.
They list $410k for NYC. I don't know if you can even get a studio apt for that in Crown Heights these days. You're not getting a house for less than a million without venturing out into the, for lack of a better word, "darker" parts of town.