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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #3240 on: February 21, 2019, 08:20:09 PM »
Crown Heights flooded with hundreds of teenagers from all over the world.

I am at awe of those Shluchim that can connect with teenagers. Dealing with one's own teenagers is enough of a challenge.
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #3241 on: February 21, 2019, 08:24:07 PM »
Crown Heights flooded with hundreds of teenagers from all over the world.

I am at awe of those Shluchim that can connect with teenagers. Dealing with one's own teenagers is enough of a challenge.
Much easier dealing with someone else's.

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #3242 on: February 21, 2019, 08:25:11 PM »
Much easier dealing with someone else's.
Possibly, but nonetheless a major challenge.
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #3243 on: February 24, 2019, 10:34:03 AM »
Much easier dealing with someone else's.
+1000
For this reason, there are plenty letters from the Rebbe to parents, that they should get outsiders to help

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #3244 on: February 24, 2019, 11:23:04 AM »
Heartwarming acknowledgment of a fact that I haven't previously seen stated in those words, was projected on the wall of the JCM over the past weekend:

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #3246 on: April 30, 2019, 10:45:53 AM »
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-04-29/high-tax-states-like-ny-nj-and-ct-are-a-sign-of-inefficiency?srnd=premium

How does your state fare?
This seems like a really simplified argument. Only the revenue side is examined, not the spending side. Government spending per capita is not proven to be a measure of inefficiency in the article, it's just assumed.

And if it was really true that higher state tax burdens are pushing wealth out of some states in favor of others, there would be strong evidence of that happening in large numbers already. The gap between low and high tax burden states is not a new thing that just popped up in the last 5 years. It's always been true that there are high and low states - people want to live in those states for other reasons.

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #3247 on: May 06, 2019, 11:26:16 AM »
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #3248 on: May 06, 2019, 11:29:35 AM »
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #3249 on: May 06, 2019, 11:34:59 AM »

Is this a pro or con?
And what's the average in the real Jewish areas?

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #3250 on: May 06, 2019, 11:40:58 AM »
Is this a pro or con?

Are you a buyer or a seller?

But more accurately and on a serious note, the huge (percentage) fluctuations from month to month can only mean that there's not much transaction volume going on to smooth things.
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #3251 on: May 06, 2019, 12:12:05 PM »
Here's what I've always been curious about - putting aside property costs, how does it cost that much less to build a house in CLE - in terms of labor and materials?

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #3252 on: May 06, 2019, 12:14:50 PM »
Here's what I've always been curious about - putting aside property costs, how does it cost that much less to build a house in CLE - in terms of labor and materials?
Do we know that it does?
What is the cost per sq ft of high quality building elsewhere?
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #3253 on: May 06, 2019, 12:16:38 PM »
But more accurately and on a serious note, the huge (percentage) fluctuations from month to month can only mean that there's not much transaction volume going on to smooth things.
https://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/2009/06/find_cuyahoga_county_property.html
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #3254 on: May 06, 2019, 12:18:42 PM »
Here's what I've always been curious about - putting aside property costs, how does it cost that much less to build a house in CLE - in terms of labor and materials?
Cost of Labor is much lower. I'm sure regulatory expenses are much lower too. Every new house built in NYC needs sprinklers today.  Sidewalk sheds required on every project. Adds significant cost. Materials allowed also add to price. In NYC up until about 10 years ago you couldnt use Pex piping for plumbing.
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #3255 on: May 06, 2019, 12:19:41 PM »
Do we know that it does?
What is the cost per sq ft of high quality building elsewhere?
Quality new construction in NYC ~$200 sq.ft.
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #3256 on: May 06, 2019, 12:20:58 PM »
Quality new construction in NYC ~$200 sq.ft.
About $140 in CLE.
Aside from regulatory reasons, there is also abundant skilled and affordable Amish labor.
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #3257 on: May 06, 2019, 12:31:46 PM »
In NYC up until about 10 years ago you couldnt use Pex piping for plumbing.

And now you can?
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #3258 on: May 06, 2019, 12:33:47 PM »
Aside from regulatory reasons, there is also abundant skilled and affordable Amish labor.

Cost of labor is affected by the cost of everything else (and by cost of going of welfare or other public assistance programs). In NYC those costs are extremely high, so labor is more expensive (also NYC has higher minimum wages).
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #3259 on: May 06, 2019, 12:41:10 PM »
And now you can?
Yes. Used to be copper and black pipe only. Now everything is plastic.
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