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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #210 on: January 15, 2013, 01:39:59 PM »
That's because CH is dying a very slow death, as it has been for 30 years now.  But it's definitely in a death-cycle no less, it's just nuanced and slow.  In 30 years from now there won't be any frum jews in CH.  You can take that to the bank. 

The same thing happened in old jewish neighborhoods like Kinsman, E. Cleveland, and Lee rd.  History repeats itself.
But it's not a bad thing.  I prefer living in a newer neighborhood than PIT's stagnant Sq. Hill community.
100% agreed. The neighborhood got much smaller over the past few years and no one young is moving in...

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #211 on: January 15, 2013, 01:40:29 PM »
Instead of dying I'll go for hanging in there...
Good. Less chance of my kids catching something from yours :D
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #212 on: January 15, 2013, 01:40:45 PM »
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #213 on: January 15, 2013, 01:48:29 PM »
Good. Less chance of my kids catching something from yours :D

Noone did, we brought something in from NY and only the Dr even knew about it!

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #214 on: January 15, 2013, 02:59:33 PM »
your location says Montreal.

you're confirming this? I was under the impression that they work with you... am i not correct?

Sorry was just using similar wording to what you used originally. I am in MTL currently, although I have spent many years in PIT (not as a parent however). I heard from ppl (n>1) that they do have discounts for ppl that cannot afford it but they most certainly don't "work with you", they determine what the discount is and that's final.
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #215 on: January 15, 2013, 03:04:27 PM »
I understood his "here" to mean the location under discussion, not that he's there at the moment.

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #216 on: January 15, 2013, 04:44:06 PM »
Although I've posted earlier in the Best Places to live(Lubavitch) thread, I'll reorganize my thoughts for this thread.

North Miami Beach.

Pros:
  • No state income tax. Sales tax isn't collected when items ships from a different state(NY, for example, charges irrespective of item origin).
  • Gas is cheaper
  • Kosher food and restaurants are abundant
  • Optimal weather in November-April
  • Driving is very simple with straight, wide roads with NO potholes
  • NMB is quieter than most major communities
  • Housing is very affordable. A 4/3 goes for 150-225k. Rent for 4/3 is approx. 1800k monthly
  • The Kehilla is very vibrant with 8 shuls and diverse as well, with Chabad, Litvish, MO, Sephardish, Chassidish(Satmar Rebbe(R' Zalman) vacationed in a house across the street from me!)
  • Lubavitch Educational Center, Chofetz Chaim and Bais Yaakov are excellent Chinuch options.

Cons:

  • May-October is a bit hot and humid
  • kosher food is cheaper in NY
  • Snowman building isn't really an option
  • New Yorkers will harbor bitter envy towards you during Winter

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #217 on: January 15, 2013, 04:55:19 PM »
May-October is a bit hot and humid
Yeah, and NYC is a bit crowded and noisy. :)

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #218 on: January 15, 2013, 04:56:36 PM »
Sounds great besides the humidity!

How is the Chabad school situation and how are kids that come out of it?
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #219 on: January 15, 2013, 04:56:49 PM »
Yeah, and NYC is a bit crowded and noisy. :)
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #220 on: January 15, 2013, 05:14:35 PM »
Yeah, and NYC is a bit crowded and noisy. :)

Lol, it was a bit of an understatement!

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #221 on: January 15, 2013, 05:17:48 PM »
How is the Chabad school situation and how are kids that come out of it?

The system goes from nursery to Zal. Nursery till 6th grade(for boys, 12th grade for girls) is in a state-of-the-art facility right next to NMB with smartboards in most classrooms.
7th-Zal is in South Beach. At this time, I would avoid the Mesivta(Chicago, Toronto etc. much better options). Zal depends on the year. The chinuch, though, in the NMB facility is quite
stellar. No politics etc.

How do the kids come out?

Well.... so many things affect the middos, eidelkeit, frumkeit etc. of kids. As long as the kid has good friends, a chassidish and stable home, he/she should come out fine. The school only
adds IMO.

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #222 on: January 15, 2013, 07:24:38 PM »
7th-Zal is in South Beach. At this time, I would avoid the Mesivta(Chicago, Toronto etc. much better options). Zal depends on the year. The chinuch, though, in the NMB facility is quite
stellar. No politics etc.

Did u hear anything bout the zal moving away from south beach? Heard something like that a few months ago. The zal there is in a pretty bad state b'ruchnius these days/years..

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The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #223 on: January 15, 2013, 07:37:24 PM »
Did u hear anything bout the zal moving away from south beach? Heard something like that a few months ago. The zal there is in a pretty bad state b'ruchnius these days/years..

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #224 on: January 15, 2013, 07:43:26 PM »
Did u hear anything bout the zal moving away from south beach? Heard something like that a few months ago. The zal there is in a pretty bad state b'ruchnius these days/years..

There was talk about it for years. Based on what I heard, Rabbi Shapiro wanted to move it to Fort Lauderdale or Aventura.
In terms of the ruchnius status of the zal, it really depends on the year(Unlike some Zals that are consistent, like Brunoy).
2-3 years ago there was a very good large group.