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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1220 on: November 21, 2014, 12:08:39 PM »
do people really move places based on a Wal Mart atm machine?? :o :o
Do people on the internet not understand jokes? :o :o
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1221 on: November 21, 2014, 12:09:51 PM »
Do people on the internet not understand jokes? :o :o
all the time
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1222 on: November 21, 2014, 12:59:30 PM »
all the time

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1223 on: November 24, 2014, 04:43:49 PM »
do people really move places based on a Wal Mart atm machine?? :o :o
all the time
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1224 on: November 24, 2014, 05:37:18 PM »
I decided in 2011 to move to Phoenix, after some back and forth to LA,
in May 2014 I made the final move after purchasing a house - Phoenix is now my official home

Pros:
- Housing is very cheap (~$120 SQFT) with big lots attached.
- Parking is abundant, everybody has driveways.
- Not much traffic, when there is, you can drive on local streets.
- People are friendly.
- Pretty good hospital, doctors etc. (Mayo Clinic, MD Anderson sister hospital, Phoenix Children's)
- Major sports teams and venues - Diamondbacks, Cardinals, Suns, Coyotes.
- Baseball spring training, 1/2 major league teams spend their spring training in greater Phoenix area.
- Driving distance to several major cities: LA 5.5 hours LAS 4.5 hours TUS 1.5 hours.
- PHX is hub for UA and SW.
- Winter weather doesn't go below freezing, rains only several times a year in the summer.
- Lots of great shopping and Walmart's, CVS (1.5 hour drive to TUS for Prepaid REDcard)
- 125K+ Jews live in the metro area, many options for meat/dairy food.
- All Trader Joe's carry empire chicken, turkey and glatt beef. Sprouts carries empire chickens and turkey.
- Gas is cheaper than NY and LA

Cons:
- 100+ degrees on 100+ days a year, dry heat but still pretty hot (most people have swimming pools)
- Job opportunities not abundant like in other major cities, but there are several headquarters for major Co's. like US :)

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1225 on: November 24, 2014, 05:42:02 PM »
I decided in 2011 to move to Phoenix, after some back and forth to LA,
in May 2014 I made the final move after purchasing a house - Phoenix is now my official home

Pros:
- Housing is very cheap (~$120 SQFT) with big lots attached.
- Parking is abundant, everybody has driveways.
- Not much traffic, when there is, you can drive on local streets.
- People are friendly.
- Pretty good hospital, doctors etc. (Mayo Clinic, MD Anderson sister hospital, Phoenix Children's)
- Major sports teams and venues - Diamondbacks, Cardinals, Suns, Coyotes.
- Baseball spring training, 1/2 major league teams spend their spring training in greater Phoenix area.
- Driving distance to several major cities: LA 5.5 hours LAS 4.5 hours TUS 1.5 hours.
- PHX is hub for UA and SW.
- Winter weather doesn't go below freezing, rains only several times a year in the summer.
- Lots of great shopping and Walmart's, CVS (1.5 hour drive to TUS for Prepaid REDcard)
- 125K+ Jews live in the metro area, many options for meat/dairy food.
- All Trader Joe's carry empire chicken, turkey and glatt beef. Sprouts carries empire chickens and turkey.
- Gas is cheaper than NY and LA

Cons:
- 100+ degrees on 100+ days a year, dry heat but still pretty hot (most people have swimming pools)
- Job opportunities not abundant like in other major cities, but there are several headquarters for major Co's. like US :)
What about schools ?

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1226 on: November 24, 2014, 05:43:09 PM »
-125K+ Jews live in the metro area
{{Citation needed}}

Otherwise nice post.  But are the meat and dairy restaurants really considered a pro? Anything that can compare to LA style food?
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1227 on: November 24, 2014, 05:45:18 PM »
What about schools ?
My kid is not school age.
I know there is the Hebrew Academy and Torah Day School and a few more.

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1228 on: November 24, 2014, 05:47:12 PM »
{{Citation needed}}

Otherwise nice post.  But are the meat and dairy restaurants really considered a pro? Anything that can compare to LA style food?
1) nothing compares to food in LA or NY
2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Federations_of_North_America#Historical_highlights and several other sources

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1229 on: November 24, 2014, 05:51:51 PM »
- PHX is hub for US and SW.

FTFY.

Saw a cookbook that recently came out, featured two recipes from Segal's, and wrote a nice review of that place.

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1230 on: November 24, 2014, 05:53:34 PM »
My kid is not school age.
I'm sure you looked into it before making the decision.

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1232 on: November 24, 2014, 07:15:49 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_urban_areas
21    Phoenix[49]     United States    82,900

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/usjewpop.html

Several articles (including Mishpacha) have quoted at 100k+
Others say between 83K-100K
YMMV?

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1233 on: November 24, 2014, 07:25:13 PM »
Fair enough.
Was just shocked to see 125K, that's nearing what YYZ has and they have wayyyy more infrastructure that PHX does.
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1234 on: November 24, 2014, 07:43:23 PM »
I thought the YYZ community was bigger than that
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1235 on: November 24, 2014, 07:53:01 PM »
I thought the YYZ community was bigger than that
It is.
But 125K is in the rough ballpark.
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1236 on: November 24, 2014, 07:54:50 PM »
Are there numbers somewhere about the orthodox community
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1237 on: November 24, 2014, 08:58:50 PM »
Fair enough.
Was just shocked to see 125K, that's nearing what YYZ has and they have wayyyy more infrastructure that PHX does.
The Frum infrastructure isn't very robust due to lack of orthodox / observant Jews.

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1238 on: November 24, 2014, 09:04:56 PM »
I know. But still 125K seems like a massive exaggeration...
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #1239 on: November 24, 2014, 09:22:11 PM »
I know. But still 125K seems like a massive exaggeration...
I agree, but I can say I know of at least 10 Chabad Houses in:
Phoenix
Scottsdale
Paradise Valley
Glendale
Fountain Valley
Chandler
Mesa
Tempe
Goodyear
& Gilbert

In addition there is a Kollel and several orthodox shuls in Phoenix and Scottsdale.