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In general, search on AA.com for award availability.

BA
If you want to book a flight with Avios, it is known from Dan's Knowledgebase that BA.com doesn't show availability very well, but some flights definitely are searchable there. Nonetheless, it's easier to just search AA.com, and if you find a MileSAAver availability, check BA.com to see if it shows up there, too. If it does, book it there. If it doesn't, you can always call up BA and reference the flight you found. Note that there is usually a very long hold time before BA picks up, and they will charge a phone booking fee. If the flight was unsearchable on BA.com, try fighting that fee, but YMMV.

IB
IB availability will not show up on AA.com You can call AA to find IB availability, but it's hard without being able to browse dates and have to ask the rep to check flights over the phone. Searching on Qantas.com will show IB flights - supposedly if they appear there, they can then be booked by calling AA.

OneWorld Explorer [OWE] The OWE has officially been cancelled [4/8/14] as part of the latest AA no-warning changing to its award program. Here's what the OWE looked like:
This is an around-the-world [RTW] award that is calculated not by the mileage cost of specific flights, but rather by the actual distance travelled on your trip. It is especially valuable for flying business class, as the difference in miles needed between coach and business is not very great on longer trips. See this chart to see the different tiers of how many miles it costs to travel different distances. You can take up to 16 segments on a trip, but there are MANY rules to follow when booking such an award.

Be prepared to spend a lot of time when planning this trip. (Personally [@Yehuda], it took 2 months with a few weeks of break in the middle from frustration.) Availability changes everyday, so you need to constantly check back to see if flights you needed are now available. It will also likely require changing your itinerary/order of stops numerous times. An itinerary can be held for 5 days (and can be extended past that on Day 5, if they are willing to rebook each flight for you, getting you another 5 days), but itineraries with IB flights can usually only be held for 24 hours. You will find that you will have to use hub airports since you're limited to OW partners. You will not find a flight from CDG-FCO without either stopping off in LON or MAD - both of which are out of the way. It's unfortunate, as it adds unnecessary distance miles to your trip, but it can be done. Remember that BA flights have high YQ, IB/AB have semi-high YQ, US/AA have very little YQ. (Unsure about other airlines, as my trip was TLV-Europe-NYC, so those were the only airline I had to work with.) You should check flight availability, again, on AA.com but the ticket must be booked on the phone (and they will charge a $25 phone booking fee, but again, try to fight it since this ticket cannot be booked online - although, honestly, by the time you've ticketed, they will likely have helped you out with much more than $25 worth of time). Technically, you can book it with any OW partner, but the odds are you probably only have enough AA miles to book this trip. AA reps definitely know about this award, although most have never booked it before. You will find that after calling so many times, you'll know more about the rules than they do. Once you have your perfect itinerary, they will have to send it to their rate desk to price it out. This can take ~24 hours. Because it takes time, if you have IB flights on the itinerary, they will make sure IB allows the flights to be held for longer than 24 hours, but confirm this with the rep before you hang up. Once it's priced out, you can pay for it. You can use 2 or more AA accounts to pay for it, but they will require each account to have enough miles to pay for 1 ticket. (e.g. If it costs 80K pax and you have 2 pax, they won't ask you to have 1 account with 160K in it, but they will require 2 accounts with at least 80K in each.)

Feel free to contact @Yehuda with any questions regarding the OWE.

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #210 on: April 03, 2014, 01:00:01 AM »
Thanks!

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #211 on: April 03, 2014, 01:42:18 AM »
call AA advantage and ask them to book you on El AL should be a lot of options .  i am assuming you are flying coach/economy?

Yes, flying Economy. How many AAdvantage miles does a RT TLV-NYC via El Al cost? Also 90k?

- sorry for being a n00b but is LY short for El Al? I want to be cool like all of you someday  8)
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #212 on: April 03, 2014, 01:56:23 AM »
Yes, flying Economy. How many AAdvantage miles does a RT TLV-NYC via El Al cost? Also 90k?

- sorry for being a n00b but is LY short for El Al? I want to be cool like all of you someday  8)
Yes and yes  :)
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« Reply #213 on: April 03, 2014, 02:13:55 AM »
I want to be cool like all of you someday  8)
Terrible choice for your future.
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« Reply #214 on: April 03, 2014, 02:19:11 AM »
Terrible choice for your future.
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« Reply #215 on: April 03, 2014, 07:06:31 AM »
Terrible choice for your future.
Our social lives have diminished 90% since we began.

LOL I know it's consuming my brain...  I'm definitely addicted! :o
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« Reply #216 on: April 03, 2014, 08:24:43 AM »
LOL I know it's consuming my brain...  I'm definitely addicted! :o

Not sure if you know, but most of us don't fly economy around here :) long way to go!

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« Reply #217 on: April 03, 2014, 08:39:20 AM »
Not sure if you know, but most of us don't fly economy around here :) long way to go!

I would totally be flying business-- but I am a student that tries to go back to the states every month, (have not paid for a flight yet, but only been in Israel 6 months...) so for me it's quantity and not quality.. when I have a big girl job I'll start flying like the pros  8) 8) 8)
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #218 on: April 03, 2014, 09:33:29 AM »
I'm trying to fly JFK - BWI on aa with ba miles. I never can find availability any tips?

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« Reply #219 on: April 03, 2014, 09:40:50 AM »
I'm trying to fly JFK - BWI on aa with ba miles. I never can find availability any tips?
Looks like there is 1 flight daily at 4:29PM if you're insistent on JFK and BWI (no other area airports) and AA (not US). Found it on both aa.com and ba.com, so you must not be looking correctly. Tell me what you've done, and I can help correct where you need help.

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« Reply #220 on: April 03, 2014, 11:06:15 AM »
Just began a wiki including information about the OneWorld Explorer award. Feel free to add :)

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« Reply #221 on: April 03, 2014, 11:30:15 AM »
Just began a wiki including information about the OneWorld Explorer award. Feel free to add :)
Thanks. I would just add that when booking with Avios and you found availability on AA Saver you should check ba.com before calling up BA and waiting an hour on hold, because if it is available to book on ba.com and you call in they charge a over the phone booking fee. (I'm on mobile can't edit myself).

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« Reply #222 on: April 03, 2014, 12:27:58 PM »
Thanks. I would just add that when booking with Avios and you found availability on AA Saver you should check ba.com before calling up BA and waiting an hour on hold, because if it is available to book on ba.com and you call in they charge a over the phone booking fee. (I'm on mobile can't edit myself).
Thanks, just edited it. From my iPhone :) But, that's okay bc the edit is in the same language/wording that the original was in, which is usually better for reading/understanding.

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #223 on: April 03, 2014, 12:41:33 PM »
That means flying from NYC to PHL and then PHL to TLV. If it meant either NYC or PHL, it would have said NYC/PHL-TLV.

can I book NYC-PHL-TLV with avios points as well?

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« Reply #224 on: April 03, 2014, 12:41:53 PM »
Looks like there is 1 flight daily at 4:29PM if you're insistent on JFK and BWI (no other area airports) and AA (not US). Found it on both aa.com and ba.com, so you must not be looking correctly. Tell me what you've done, and I can help correct where you need help.

I need a non stop flight @ 8pm or later going from jfk - BWI or DCA. When I search for fares it comes up DCA but no availability for avios.