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In general, search on AA.com for award availability.

BA
If you want to book a flight with Avios, it is known from Dan's Knowledgebase that BA.com doesn't show availability very well, but some flights definitely are searchable there. Nonetheless, it's easier to just search AA.com, and if you find a MileSAAver availability, check BA.com to see if it shows up there, too. If it does, book it there. If it doesn't, you can always call up BA and reference the flight you found. Note that there is usually a very long hold time before BA picks up, and they will charge a phone booking fee. If the flight was unsearchable on BA.com, try fighting that fee, but YMMV.

IB
IB availability will not show up on AA.com You can call AA to find IB availability, but it's hard without being able to browse dates and have to ask the rep to check flights over the phone. Searching on Qantas.com will show IB flights - supposedly if they appear there, they can then be booked by calling AA.

OneWorld Explorer [OWE] The OWE has officially been cancelled [4/8/14] as part of the latest AA no-warning changing to its award program. Here's what the OWE looked like:
This is an around-the-world [RTW] award that is calculated not by the mileage cost of specific flights, but rather by the actual distance travelled on your trip. It is especially valuable for flying business class, as the difference in miles needed between coach and business is not very great on longer trips. See this chart to see the different tiers of how many miles it costs to travel different distances. You can take up to 16 segments on a trip, but there are MANY rules to follow when booking such an award.

Be prepared to spend a lot of time when planning this trip. (Personally [@Yehuda], it took 2 months with a few weeks of break in the middle from frustration.) Availability changes everyday, so you need to constantly check back to see if flights you needed are now available. It will also likely require changing your itinerary/order of stops numerous times. An itinerary can be held for 5 days (and can be extended past that on Day 5, if they are willing to rebook each flight for you, getting you another 5 days), but itineraries with IB flights can usually only be held for 24 hours. You will find that you will have to use hub airports since you're limited to OW partners. You will not find a flight from CDG-FCO without either stopping off in LON or MAD - both of which are out of the way. It's unfortunate, as it adds unnecessary distance miles to your trip, but it can be done. Remember that BA flights have high YQ, IB/AB have semi-high YQ, US/AA have very little YQ. (Unsure about other airlines, as my trip was TLV-Europe-NYC, so those were the only airline I had to work with.) You should check flight availability, again, on AA.com but the ticket must be booked on the phone (and they will charge a $25 phone booking fee, but again, try to fight it since this ticket cannot be booked online - although, honestly, by the time you've ticketed, they will likely have helped you out with much more than $25 worth of time). Technically, you can book it with any OW partner, but the odds are you probably only have enough AA miles to book this trip. AA reps definitely know about this award, although most have never booked it before. You will find that after calling so many times, you'll know more about the rules than they do. Once you have your perfect itinerary, they will have to send it to their rate desk to price it out. This can take ~24 hours. Because it takes time, if you have IB flights on the itinerary, they will make sure IB allows the flights to be held for longer than 24 hours, but confirm this with the rep before you hang up. Once it's priced out, you can pay for it. You can use 2 or more AA accounts to pay for it, but they will require each account to have enough miles to pay for 1 ticket. (e.g. If it costs 80K pax and you have 2 pax, they won't ask you to have 1 account with 160K in it, but they will require 2 accounts with at least 80K in each.)

Feel free to contact @Yehuda with any questions regarding the OWE.

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #440 on: September 18, 2014, 08:51:42 AM »
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #441 on: September 20, 2014, 08:49:25 PM »
Any ideas how to find 2 business tickets from TLV to JFK with AA miles?

10/22, could only find with 2 stopovers via Amman with crazy layover times

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« Reply #442 on: September 20, 2014, 08:54:34 PM »

Any ideas how to find 2 business tickets from TLV to JFK with AA miles?

10/22, could only find with 2 stopovers via Amman with crazy layover times
Try el al. Or try el al to Europe and connect with american.
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #443 on: September 20, 2014, 09:07:42 PM »
Try el al. Or try el al to Europe and connect with american.
No elal. Also tried every city in Europe I can think of and no AA saver avil

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One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #444 on: September 20, 2014, 09:13:46 PM »
No elal. Also tried every city in Europe I can think of and no AA saver avil
might not be ideal, but check ly to frankfurt then frankfurt to phl on us
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« Reply #445 on: September 20, 2014, 10:23:40 PM »
might not be ideal, but check ly to frankfurt then frankfurt to phl on us
Thanks but nothing..

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #446 on: September 21, 2014, 08:14:01 AM »
Any ideas how to find 2 business tickets from TLV to JFK with AA miles?

10/22, could only find with 2 stopovers via Amman with crazy layover times
No TLV-LAX?
How about routing via VIE on Niki or Germany on AB?

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« Reply #447 on: September 21, 2014, 08:47:45 AM »
AA flies VIE-JFK?
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« Reply #449 on: September 21, 2014, 10:12:27 AM »
No
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No TLV-LAX?
How about routing via VIE on Niki or Germany on AB?
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #450 on: September 21, 2014, 10:17:26 AM »
From tlv to VIE there is niki
From there to lax via lhr /par/mad
Or maybe air Berlin flies to lax?

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« Reply #451 on: September 21, 2014, 10:22:29 AM »
From tlv to VIE there is niki
From there to lax via lhr /par/mad
Or maybe air Berlin flies to lax?
The OP asked about TLV-JFK. No idea what Drago dreamed about LAX. Ohhh he currently plans a trip to LAX so he is one track minded  :P
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #452 on: September 22, 2014, 08:45:23 PM »
I HATE THE AA PHONE TICKETING NUMBER!!! THE AUTOMATED LINE NEVER RECOGNIZES "TEL AVIV" FOR ME!

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« Reply #453 on: September 22, 2014, 11:35:05 PM »
I HATE THE AA PHONE TICKETING NUMBER!!! THE AUTOMATED LINE NEVER RECOGNIZES "TEL AVIV" FOR ME!

You actually try to use the automated line?  :o
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« Reply #454 on: September 23, 2014, 12:17:39 AM »
You actually try to use the automated line?  :o
+1. The only time I saw someone using it was a 88 year old guy. I was shaken up by how people answer, JJAAYY EEFFF KKKEEEYYY - JJUULLYY 26, TTTEELLL AAVVIIVV - JJJJUULLYY 29. And when the agent is finally picking up, you have to give him all the dates again...
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« Reply #455 on: September 23, 2014, 12:18:48 AM »
You actually try to use the automated line?  :o

Did it once. Didn't think it would be that bad. Never again.
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« Reply #456 on: September 23, 2014, 01:49:16 AM »
The OP asked about TLV-JFK. No idea what Drago dreamed about LAX. Ohhh he currently plans a trip to LAX so he is one track minded  :P
Sry for my delay in responding, but I needed a few days to calm down after your flippant disrespectful comments.

I meant flying LY to LAX and then backtracking to JFK.

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« Reply #457 on: September 23, 2014, 02:51:22 AM »
You actually try to use the automated line?  :o
works for me. you have to pronounce it tel aveev

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« Reply #458 on: September 23, 2014, 07:52:30 AM »
works for me. you have to pronounce it tel aveev

Even if it works, which is rarely, what's the point? You have to usually repeat all the info again when the agent picks up.

One of my biggest pet peeves; if the automated line asks for it, it should be relayed to the agent!
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #459 on: September 23, 2014, 07:56:14 AM »
I meant flying LY to LAX and then backtracking to JFK.
I feel sorry for whoever does that, especially on LY  ;)