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Re: Nest Learning Thermostat New Jersey Natural Gas Customer-$150(reg. $250)
« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2013, 12:58:44 AM »
It's cool and it saves money so it practically pays for itself. If you have a small home not worth it as much but it's still cool.
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Re: Nest Learning Thermostat New Jersey Natural Gas Customer-$150(reg. $250)
« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2013, 01:03:33 AM »
It's cool and it saves money so it practically pays for itself. If you have a small home not worth it as much but it's still cool.
I agree it is cool.  I just don't see how (even for a larger home) it saves money over a regular programmable thermostat.

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Re: Nest Learning Thermostat New Jersey Natural Gas Customer-$150(reg. $250)
« Reply #42 on: October 28, 2013, 01:11:55 AM »
I agree it is cool.  I just don't see how (even for a larger home) it saves money over a regular programmable thermostat.

I enjoyed this article, discussing the differences http://lifehacker.com/what-can-a-smart-thermostat-do-that-mine-can-t-already-472975733

"if the thought of manually adjusting the thermostat every time you leave, every time you get home, and thinking about whether you should change it for the amount of time you'll be gone running errands makes you roll your eyes, they may be worth the money you'll spend to get the savings back in the long run."
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Re: Nest Learning Thermostat New Jersey Natural Gas Customer-$150(reg. $250)
« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2013, 06:42:17 AM »
because it calculates how long it takes to get to a desired a temperature (esp for me with radiators in my house), my heat costs have been cut drastically. A lot of people will turn down the  temp on their thermostat thinking it will make it cooler faster or the other way to make it warmer faster. The nest helps prevent that. Since it learns your habits and can set an auto schedule (if you dont want to set one manually) it will have the desired temp at the desired time instead of only turning on at the time you set, like other thermostats. I have 2 of these in my house, and I highly recommend them. I have seen drastic improvements, esp in the summer with my A/C system.
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Re: Nest Learning Thermostat New Jersey Natural Gas Customer-$150(reg. $250)
« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2013, 08:08:58 AM »
If you turn of the sensors how does it learn your schedule?

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Re: Nest Learning Thermostat New Jersey Natural Gas Customer-$150(reg. $250)
« Reply #45 on: October 28, 2013, 08:31:35 AM »
If you turn of the sensors how does it learn your schedule?

It has the whole week to figure that out.
Granted, it would be annoying to remember to turn the sensor on/off each week   
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Re: Nest Learning Thermostat New Jersey Natural Gas Customer-$150(reg. $250)
« Reply #46 on: October 28, 2013, 09:21:12 AM »
If you turn of the sensors how does it learn your schedule?
By you constantly changing the thermostat temps at certain times....it doesn't only learn with the sensors....it learns by the changes you make to it as well...
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Re: Nest Learning Thermostat New Jersey Natural Gas Customer-$150(reg. $250)
« Reply #47 on: October 28, 2013, 09:23:00 AM »
It will never know what to do on Shabbos. For all I know it may decide to shutdown for 24 hours!

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Re: Nest Learning Thermostat New Jersey Natural Gas Customer-$150(reg. $250)
« Reply #48 on: October 28, 2013, 09:23:27 AM »
you are correct, but again, you can also set your schedule manually....
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Re: Nest Learning Thermostat New Jersey Natural Gas Customer-$150(reg. $250)
« Reply #49 on: October 28, 2013, 11:56:26 AM »
I am strongly considering getting this. Only thing is I assume would need two since I currently have two different thermostats in two different zones.
Anyone here actually use this that can chime in on actual $$ amounts of energy savings?
Cnet's review says he saved $70 in one year just from heat (he has no AC). I'd imagine that would mean I could save around $150 a year making this a no brainer.

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Re: Nest Learning Thermostat New Jersey Natural Gas Customer-$150(reg. $250)
« Reply #50 on: October 28, 2013, 12:22:13 PM »
I just discussed this with R' Forscheimer. Obviously if you remember to shut off the sensor every friday you are fine. My question was A)Are you required to shut it off every week B)What if you forget to shut it off one particular week.

He said that the sensor could be a problem for Shabbos since it is Nicha Lei for the changes that it will make based on its sensing and therefore the answer to A is that you should definitely attempt to remember to shut off the sensor every Friday.
In regard to B, I asked him -  if there is a way to setup that there should be a manual override every Shabbos and therefore even if the sensor is on and sensing it will know not to make changes to the system based on its sensing - he answered that while it would still be better to shut off the sensor every week, if you forget one week it's fine since the sensing isn't accomplishing anything beneficial to you.

Anyone know if it's possible to set up (one time) manual override for of the sensing for every shabbos?

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Re: NEST Thermostat
« Reply #51 on: October 28, 2013, 01:59:41 PM »
If my thermostat is in the dining room which is rarely used during the week, will the sensor just assume that noone is home and freeze us?

Also, it will be a pain to shut of the sensor every friday. It may save a few bucks in the long run but probably not worth the inconvenience.

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Re: NEST Thermostat
« Reply #52 on: October 28, 2013, 02:02:30 PM »
Seems like more headache than it's worth due to shabbos.
I'll stick with a cheap programmable unit.
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Re: NEST Thermostat
« Reply #53 on: October 28, 2013, 03:31:24 PM »
You can make a drop of money getting two of these and selling them on Ebay.

Total cost to buy 1 including taxes is $166 and they are selling for approx. $225 on Ebay.


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Re: NEST Thermostat
« Reply #54 on: December 11, 2013, 08:24:41 AM »
Just got my Nest, and im getting error N23. Then I got the low battery error, in which nest posted on their site that its a big bug and they are downgrading everyone to firmware 3.5.3 which should solve the issue, but I'm on 3.5.3 and I have this problem, woke up today to a cold house.....
Calling nest involves almost a 2 hour wait time to speak to a rep...
I'm near requesting a RMA

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Re: NEST Thermostat
« Reply #55 on: December 11, 2013, 08:38:08 AM »
Just got my Nest, and im getting error N23. Then I got the low battery error, in which nest posted on their site that its a big bug and they are downgrading everyone to firmware 3.5.3 which should solve the issue, but I'm on 3.5.3 and I have this problem, woke up today to a cold house.....
Calling nest involves almost a 2 hour wait time to speak to a rep...
I'm near requesting a RMA
Turn on ure your heat and then take the Nest off the wall and plug it into a standard Android charger to fully charge it.  Once charged put it back on the wall and shut off wifi to conserve battery.

I never had this issue BH.

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Re: NEST Thermostat
« Reply #56 on: December 11, 2013, 08:46:43 AM »
Do i need to charge this everyday now? One more gadget to charge...

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Re: NEST Thermostat
« Reply #57 on: December 11, 2013, 08:52:27 AM »

Just got my Nest, and im getting error N23. Then I got the low battery error, in which nest posted on their site that its a big bug and they are downgrading everyone to firmware 3.5.3 which should solve the issue, but I'm on 3.5.3 and I have this problem, woke up today to a cold house.....
Calling nest involves almost a 2 hour wait time to speak to a rep...
I'm near requesting a RMA

This is the main reasoning I am avoiding getting a Nest for now. Too many reports of the thermostat failing and causing freeze related damage or equipment damage.

Luckily you were home when the thermostat malfunctioned.

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Re: NEST Thermostat
« Reply #58 on: December 11, 2013, 09:01:14 AM »
Do i need to charge this everyday now? One more gadget to charge...
I don't think you will need to charge it every day and hopefully they will fix the problem soon. 

I have never  had to charge mine

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Re: NEST Thermostat
« Reply #59 on: December 11, 2013, 10:15:56 AM »
Just got my Nest, and im getting error N23. Then I got the low battery error, in which nest posted on their site that its a big bug and they are downgrading everyone to firmware 3.5.3 which should solve the issue, but I'm on 3.5.3 and I have this problem, woke up today to a cold house.....
Calling nest involves almost a 2 hour wait time to speak to a rep...
I'm near requesting a RMA

I never waited more than 10 minutes to speak to a rep.
Maybe you have an issue with your internet? I would suggest restarting the nest. This does not reset all the schedules.