The Palestinian question

[HelpMe]

Can someone help me out here? Wasn’t Bill Maher against both the Afghan and Iraq wars?

[U-no-me!]

Can someone help me out here? Wasn’t Bill Maher against both the Afghan and Iraq wars?

No, Just against the Iraq war because he feard it would lead to a civil war in Iraq.

[U-no-me!]

[U-no-me!]

UH-O USA inciting protests against Israel?

[Achas Veachas]

UH-O USA inciting protests against Israel?

Does anyone else find it a bit twisted that Israel's plans to build a few homes is getting more condemnation than 10 years of sustained rocket attacks by Hammas?

[U-no-me!]

Does anyone else find it a bit twisted that Israel's plans to build a few homes is getting more condemnation than 10 years of sustained rocket attacks by Hammas?

+1
But it's still way better than what the vatican is doing.
Vatican: Israel is baby killers.
Can you imagine, not one peep from the vatican over the past 12+ years when thousands of baby's lives are at danger and have had no semblace of normal lives, not one peep when jewish baby's actually die, But when Israel retalliates against the terroist organization Hammas than suddenly Isarel is killng babies.
There are children that are having bar mitzvah's now, who have ever since they were babies been subject to rocket attacks, and air raid sirens, are suffering from PTSD and have no clue what normal life experienced by every american kid is like.
But the vatican condems ISRAEL.
Don't be surprised if you didn't hear a peep about this in the main stream media.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/wap/Item.aspx?type=0&item=162368

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/11/vatican-cardinals-blood-libel-i-think-of-the-massacre-of-the-innocents-children-are-dying-in-gaza.html

[HelpMe]

Maybe we should rename this thread. 

[Achas Veachas]

Maybe we should rename this thread. 

My thoughts exactly... 

[Ergel]

Maybe we should rename delete this thread. 

FTFY

[AsherO]

Maybe we should rename delete this threadoff topic tangent. 

FTFY

FTFY

There's nothing wrong with the thread, great articles posted thus far.

[Ergel]

FTFY


FTFY

There's nothing wrong with the thread, great articles posted thus far.

Enjoyed the articles, thought the banter was a little silly

[PlatinumGuy]

Does anyone else find it a bit twisted that Israel's plans to build a few homes is getting more condemnation than 10 years of sustained rocket attacks by Hammas?

Its not a 'few homes' its basically separating the Arab areas from Jerusalem

I'm all for Israel doing this, but it really is a change to the status quo. Arabs shooting missiles is not, sadly. Also, there is no point condemning Hamas. The foreign governments already do everything they could to try to aid the Palestinians without the money getting into terrorist hands. The spend A LOT of money trying to oversee where the money is.

There is also no point embargoing Plaestinian produce (is there such a thing outside Israel?). Economic prosperity is the solution, not the problem. In fact they'd be doing Israel a favor by forcing people to buy and support the economy

M2C

[AsherO]

There is also no point embargoing Plaestinian produce (is there such a thing outside Israel?). Economic prosperity is the solution, not the problem. In fact they'd be doing Israel a favor by forcing people to buy and support the economy

[U-no-me!]

Its not a 'few homes' its basically separating the Arab areas from Jerusalem

I'm all for Israel doing this, but it really is a change to the status quo. Arabs shooting missiles is not, sadly. Also, there is no point condemning Hamas. The foreign governments already do everything they could to try to aid the Palestinians without the money getting into terrorist hands. The spend A LOT of money trying to oversee where the money is.

There is also no point embargoing Plaestinian produce (is there such a thing outside Israel?). Economic prosperity is the solution, not the problem. In fact they'd be doing Israel a favor by forcing people to buy and support the economy

M2C

First off, I beleive the homes they are going to build were part of the "bush Letter agreement". And those homes will actually be connecting Ma'ale Adumim To jerusalem.
2. There would't be such   an issue with building these homes had obama not forced a settlement freeze.
3. Everyone knows that under any peace agreement the area in question would deffinitely be in Israeli territory.
4. Sadly foreign governments including the US do not do enough in isolating hamas.
5. The whole jihad thing is not rational, there is a religious war going on, how many people have you heard of besides for muslims that were suicide bombers, hence economic prosperity would do little and not solve the problem. The palestinian economy was much better before the intifada. There are plenty of prosperous palestinians who are still bent on throwing all the jews into the sea.
Remember the christmas day bomber, well he was a millonaire, lived in a $4 million mansion  Bin laden was also a multi millionare.
A big reason there is still no peace, is because of israels weakness. They were the ones that brought arafat from tunisia to ramallah etc;

[PlatinumGuy]

First off, I beleive the homes they are going to build were part of the "bush Letter agreement". And those homes will actually be connecting Ma'ale Adumim To jerusalem.
2. There would't be such   an issue with building these homes had obama not forced a settlement freeze.
3. Everyone knows that under any peace agreement the area in question would deffinitely be in Israeli territory.
4. Sadly foreign governments including the US do not do enough in isolating hamas.
5. The whole jihad thing is not rational, there is a religious war going on, how many people have you heard of besides for muslims that were suicide bombers, hence economic prosperity would do little and not solve the problem. The palestinian economy was much better before the intifada. There are plenty of prosperous palestinians who are still bent on throwing all the jews into the sea.
Remember the christmas day bomber, well he was a millonaire, lived in a $4 million mansion  Bin laden was also a multi millionare.
A big reason there is still no peace, is because of israels weakness. They were the ones that brought arafat from tunisia to ramallah etc;

1. Connecting Maale adumim to J'lem means Surrounding Jlem w Israeli settlement & effectively blocking off the Arabs.
2. Its been an issue for ages
3. Everyone besides me.
4. Not sure what you mean by isolated. Witholding money from the Palestenian people aggravates the problem. Hamas as an institution is an isolated as possible. They cannot open a bank anywhere in the world, etc etc.
5. BS. People resort to blowing themself up out of desperation. Nothing else. Why do you think Dubai and Israel are friends?


6. Perhaps. But the reason there isn't a full Palestine from the Jordan to the Mediterranean is because of the same 'weakness'

[HelpMe]

There's nothing wrong with the thread, great articles posted thus far.

Like the Vatican/Baby killer one?

[U-no-me!]

1. Connecting Maale adumim to J'lem means Surrounding Jlem w Israeli settlement & effectively blocking off the Arabs.
2. Its been an issue for ages
3. Everyone besides me.
4. Not sure what you mean by isolated. Witholding money from the Palestenian people aggravates the problem. Hamas as an institution is an isolated as possible. They cannot open a bank anywhere in the world, etc etc.
5. BS. People resort to blowing themself up out of desperation. Nothing else. Why do you think Dubai and Israel are friends?


6. Perhaps. But the reason there isn't a full Palestine from the Jordan to the Mediterranean is because of the same 'weakness'

1. Blocking off the arabs from?
2. True, but not half as big.
3. There are certain areas which ave a very large jewish population that are over the green line, which is defifntely not open for discussion, and yes evreyone involved in the "peace" making knows.
4. You can isolate them also by not talking to them, trying to topple them etc;
5. Was the christmas day (millionaire) bomber out of desepration? was all the sectarian suicide bombings in iraq out of desperation? was the suicide mission in mumbai out of desperation? was the suicide bombings in england out of desperation? etc; etc;

6. Dubai and Israel friends?! are you kidding?
Isn't Saudi Arabia also VERY properous?

[HelpMe]

Seems you have some sort of issue with the truth.
If you don't like what that article says, than take it up with the vatican. Don't blame the victim.

It seems you accept articles you like as fact. 

ETA: http://foolishnesstotheworld.wordpress.com/2012/11/29/google-ravasi-and-herod-and-you-get-1210000-results/

[U-no-me!]

Like the Vatican/Baby killer one?

I can identify with you. I know it's very hard to accept it, it is indeed sad but unfortunately it's the truth and unfortunately not so shocking.

[U-no-me!]

It seems you accept articles you like as fact. 

ETA: http://foolishnesstotheworld.wordpress.com/2012/11/29/google-ravasi-and-herod-and-you-get-1210000-results/

Interesting article but I don't see any denial that it was indeed said. all I see is that they also say that the jews are dear to god etc;
Am i wrong?

+ as I learned from a good teacher 1. they make alot of claims which may or may not be true and 2. can i get a real and reliable news source? Can I ask some questions about this site?