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What is a Timeshare?

A "Timeshare" is basically where you buy a property (usually vacation) but only for a certain amount of time per year. For example- you can buy a timeshare in an orlando resort for a 2 bedroom villa for 2 weeks per year. You pay for the actual sale plus a management fee per year. This gives you the right to use this property usually for any 2 weeks during the year as long as it is available and you are considered an "owner". It is made for people who vacation alot in certain areas and enjoy certain properties. Some companies have a few different properties in different vacation spot and "owners can choose to use their timeshare in whichever one they want this gives them flexibility to vacation in different spots every year.

What you are probably hearing about is not what I just explained i.e. actually buying a timeshare, just a timeshare promotion. What it is basically is that properties are always trying to get people to buy timeshares and in order to do so they offer amazing deals to come spend time at their properties (alot of properties are also Hotels and resorts that sell parts off as timeshares) in exchange for a 90 minute sales seminar or a tour of the property which tend to be very aggressive and persuasive.
They may offer a deal to come for a few nights all inclusive for $99 in a hotel that would usually be a few hundred a night or other great deals to entice you to come check them out. Their seminars/sales pitches can actually be very convincing and almost make sense for an uninformed consumer. The key is the fine print where all the management fees come in etc...

What Dan is probably referring to above is to find out how much the timeshares are selling in the secondary market (there is a big market for this as people eventually realize they cant afford it or no longer want to use it etc... and they try to flip their timeshares) that way when they try their salespitch you would have an easy out by telling them how much you can buy one for less than they are asking and you wont need to sit through any further harassment.

I have spoken to people who have had great experiences doing these promotions and had a great vacation for very cheap. The main thing was to get the seminar out of the way and know how to deal with the selling tactics. Others have said it might not have been worth it.

try doing a google search for timeshare promotions or something like that. here is one site i just pulled up;
http://www.vacationtimesharerentals.com/timeshare-promotions-city.asp
You might have to sort through actual timeshare sale promotions and vacation deals to find what you want.
Make sure to read the requirements to qualify. I have heard of situations where people signed up and when it came to the seminar and it was realized that they didnt qualify they were told they would need to pay full price. I dont remember if they were successful in fighting it or not....

How much does the cheapest basic retail option cost, what does it include, and how are the payments made?

This is the basic gist of it: The lowest option is paying about 8k for 50 years. You have to put down 10% deposit and the rest you can pay up over 7 years about. Besides, each year there's a maintenance fee of $800. You receive about 40k points a year for this which you can use for vacation stays all over the world. For the cheapest option it's worth about 3-4 weeks free hotel stay. You can also use this towards air fare, car rental etc.... If you don't use all your points one year you can carry it over for the next year...

This is DDF. Is there a “hack” to get it for cheaper than retail, preferably with extra perks?

If you pay retail they are not worth it at all but you can literally get some for almost free on the secondary market.  You can check out places at www.redweek.com.  I would never have bought one but my mom got one that I have taken over from her (ie. we pay the annual dues of about $700) and it has been the best investment ever for us because it enables me to buy "getaway" weeks which are excess weeks at ridiculously low prices.  Because my kids day school has "off" vacation times I'm not fighting for peak times.  I just spent last week in Orlando at a gorgeous Marriott resort in a huge 2Br unit with a laundry and full kitchen for $550 for the whole WEEK!  I have booked a week in Vail for next summer for $250 for the whole week and then I used my points to get a week in Breckenridge over July 4th.  I've been to Ft. Lauderdale, S. California (Newport Beach and near San Diego), Phoenix and a bunch of other places in nice resorts like Marriotts and Westins and have definitely gotten great use out of ours.  IF you buy on the secondary market, don't want to travel in peak times AND you are willing to plan far ahead they can be amazing deals (especially since I really prefer to have full kitchens and hate staying in hotel rooms with my kids unless there is great kosher food availability near by).

While they do have the all the Hilton timeshare properties in their network, I think that the programs that are part of Interval International are in general far superior and also Interval just has much better search tools and other things I like.  I have used RCI once to trade my dad's timeshare and I have access to their website to get extra weeks but I always end up going back to use the II options because I think they are so much better.  If you want to get one, I'd buy one on the secondary market that gets you access to II.

 It's called Festiva it's kind of irrelevant as I've never once stayed within their system.  The most important thing is that whatever you buy gives you good access and trading power with Interval International, so buy something in the secondary market on the beach, in The Rockies or the winter in AZ. Do NOT ever buy one in Vegas or Orlando as there is a huge glut there and they won't trade well (you can always buy a getaway week of you wanna go there).


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« on: June 25, 2008, 07:14:11 PM »
Hi i'm trying to find a good free vacation with one of those timeshare things, anyone have any idea's and im only 22? Dan im soo suprised you dont have a huge list of them.
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2008, 07:15:36 PM »
it doesnt have to be free, just a decent price! thanks

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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2008, 11:30:17 AM »
SDoes anyone know any good timeshare sites for good deals? those things where you sit thru a 120min tour, and they charge very little?

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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2009, 12:11:56 PM »
How exactly does it work, and what does it entail? Also where can i find out about available ones? Anyone here done it? What was your experience? Any input/advice is appreciated. Thanks

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Re: Time share
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2009, 01:21:04 PM »
Buy only on the secondary market where prices can be a small fraction of the original cost.
Also feel free to cash in on major promos to get you to come in to buy, but be sure to come armed with the secondary market prices for an easy out!
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Re: Time share
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2009, 01:23:12 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2009, 01:25:03 PM »
Start from the beginning please. I have no idea what a time share even is. Just heard about it. How do i find out about available ones? What is it exactly?

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Re: Time share
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2009, 02:47:56 PM »
A "Timeshare" is basically where you buy a property (usually vacation) but only for a certain amount of time per year. For example- you can buy a timeshare in an orlando resort for a 2 bedroom villa for 2 weeks per year. You pay for the actual sale plus a management fee per year. This gives you the right to use this property usually for any 2 weeks during the year as long as it is available and you are considered an "owner". It is made for people who vacation alot in certain areas and enjoy certain properties. Some companies have a few different properties in different vacation spot and "owners can choose to use their timeshare in whichever one they want this gives them flexibility to vacation in different spots every year.

What you are probably hearing about is not what I just explained i.e. actually buying a timeshare, just a timeshare promotion. What it is basically is that properties are always trying to get people to buy timeshares and in order to do so they offer amazing deals to come spend time at their properties (alot of properties are also Hotels and resorts that sell parts off as timeshares) in exchange for a 90 minute sales seminar or a tour of the property which tend to be very aggressive and persuasive.
They may offer a deal to come for a few nights all inclusive for $99 in a hotel that would usually be a few hundred a night or other great deals to entice you to come check them out. Their seminars/sales pitches can actually be very convincing and almost make sense for an uninformed consumer. The key is the fine print where all the management fees come in etc...
 

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Re: Time share
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2009, 02:54:43 PM »
What Dan is probably referring to above is to find out how much the timeshares are selling in the secondary market (there is a big market for this as people eventually realize they cant afford it or no longer want to use it etc... and they try to flip their timeshares) that way when they try their salespitch you would have an easy out by telling them how much you can buy one for less than they are asking and you wont need to sit through any further harassment.

I have spoken to people who have had great experiences doing these promotions and had a great vacation for very cheap. The main thing was to get the seminar out of the way and know how to deal with the selling tactics. Others have said it might not have been worth it.

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Re: Time share
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2009, 04:09:18 PM »
Thanks Mike that's what i was talking about ;D. How would I find out about places that will give me a vacation with the sales pitch? I'm not worried about the sales pressure as I would be going with a friend that isn't getting talked into anything so all I'd have to do is keep my mouth shut 8) 8)

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Re: Time share
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2009, 05:37:39 PM »
try doing a google search for timeshare promotions or something like that. here is one site i just pulled up;
http://www.vacationtimesharerentals.com/timeshare-promotions-city.asp
You might have to sort through actual timeshare sale promotions and vacation deals to find what you want.
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Re: Time share
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2009, 08:20:12 PM »
check out worldmarktheclub.com they have these offers all the time stay for two days and hear a drosho
also if your young buy now cause when your older you will have it cheap just a thought

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Re: Time share
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2009, 11:53:12 PM »
Ok guys thanks. I'll check it out and let ya know. Here comes a cheap vacation!!! Hopefully...

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Re: Time share
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2009, 03:01:22 PM »
Thanks Mike that's what i was talking about ;D. How would I find out about places that will give me a vacation with the sales pitch? I'm not worried about the sales pressure as I would be going with a friend that isn't getting talked into anything so all I'd have to do is keep my mouth shut 8) 8)
Keep in mind that many timeshares will only allow you to travel with a 'friend' (or give you the discount or promo they are offering) if said friend is your spouse.

A friend of mine once went to one of these with another friend (for the free TV they were giving away) and they made them both sit through seperate presentations since they were not married.

Ive been to a few. Its amazing how they drop the price so quickly, and then get their 'managers' approval to lower the cost.

Its a very high-pressured sales pitch.

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