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Do You Own A Gun

Of Course
31 (19.9%)
No
57 (36.5%)
I plan on getting one eventually
67 (42.9%)
I used to
1 (0.6%)

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Re: Gun Ownership
« Reply #180 on: February 25, 2015, 01:12:57 PM »
HA!
your not gonna get a carry permit in NYC.
Why not?
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Re: Gun Ownership
« Reply #181 on: February 26, 2015, 12:35:08 AM »
I own and carry here in MD, one of the few "may issue" states. You need "good and substantial" reason.
Such as?

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Re: Gun Ownership
« Reply #182 on: February 26, 2015, 12:49:21 AM »
Why not?
There are less than 6000 non-law enforcement full carry permits issued in NYC. They made the process nearly impossible. I went to graduate school with the former head of the NYPD gun permit unit. Trust me. Unless you show a need e.g. celebrity + stalker/documented death threats, or cash business (with bank deposits to back it up) you're not getting a personal carry. You may get a business, premises or limited carry. But full carry is a select few individuals other than active or former LE.
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Re: Gun Ownership
« Reply #183 on: February 26, 2015, 07:32:27 AM »
There are less than 6000 non-law enforcement full carry permits issued in NYC. They made the process nearly impossible. I went to graduate school with the former head of the NYPD gun permit unit. Trust me. Unless you show a need e.g. celebrity + stalker/documented death threats, or cash business (with bank deposits to back it up) you're not getting a personal carry. You may get a business, premises or limited carry. But full carry is a select few individuals other than active or former LE.
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Re: Gun Ownership
« Reply #184 on: February 26, 2015, 08:19:30 AM »
Move to Florida :)

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Re: Gun Ownership
« Reply #185 on: February 26, 2015, 08:27:09 AM »
Move to Florida :)

Move almost anywhere else beside NY, NJ and CA.

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Re: Gun Ownership
« Reply #186 on: February 26, 2015, 01:47:37 PM »
We got to figure out a way to buy guns and ammo on points. These guns can be just as if not more expensive than flights!

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Re: Gun Ownership
« Reply #187 on: February 26, 2015, 01:50:00 PM »
We got to figure out a way to buy guns and ammo on points. These guns can be just as if not more expensive than flights!

Not if you shop smart. I got my carry 9mm for less than $250. 

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Re: Gun Ownership
« Reply #188 on: February 26, 2015, 02:26:42 PM »
Not if you shop smart. I got my carry 9mm for less than $250.
Well yes it depends on model and whether it's used or new. I'm a fan of Glock and I think their good handguns start at 500-600 new. And either way the ammo still costs you. Do you practice often? Do you pay membership for a range? These things add up quickly.

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Re: Ban guns
« Reply #189 on: August 26, 2015, 10:07:09 AM »
Bumping old thread to say that my opinion on guns has evolved. I believe that 2nd Amendment rights has gotten out of hand and has been taken to an extreme. Even if there is only one bad guy with a gun for every 100 good guys with guns, it's still too many. I guess Thomas Jefferson didn't foresee this mess...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/26/active-shooter-reportedly-attacks-tv-crew-in-virginia/?intcmp=hpbt1


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Re: Ban guns
« Reply #190 on: August 26, 2015, 10:15:44 AM »
Bumping old thread to say that my opinion on guns has evolved. I believe that 2nd Amendment rights has gotten out of hand and has been taken to an extreme. Even if there is only one bad guy with a gun for every 100 good guys with guns, it's still too many. I guess Thomas Jefferson didn't foresee this mess...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/26/active-shooter-reportedly-attacks-tv-crew-in-virginia/?intcmp=hpbt1
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Re: Ban guns
« Reply #191 on: August 26, 2015, 10:20:44 AM »
Sorry you're just wrong!
You can't govern by emotions.

Can I expect a logical explanation, or are you content with simply stating that I am wrong?

Let me ask you this: if theoretically there was an easy way to have all guns removed from citizens, good and bad, would you accept that?

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Re: Ban guns
« Reply #192 on: August 26, 2015, 10:22:58 AM »
You and me both know what banning guns will accomplish.
Good people will not have guns, Bad people like that villain from today or Roof will get guns.
We all know this.
Whoever would think that a criminal wouldn't get a firearm because it's illegal??!

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Re: Ban guns
« Reply #193 on: August 26, 2015, 10:31:23 AM »
Can I expect a logical explanation, or are you content with simply stating that I am wrong?

Let me ask you this: if theoretically there was an easy way to have all guns removed from citizens, good and bad, would you accept that?

Yes, if you can magically remove all guns from everywhere, America would be safer.  Is that possible?  No.  Is it legal?  No.

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Re: Ban guns
« Reply #194 on: August 26, 2015, 10:32:34 AM »


Can I expect a logical explanation, or are you content with simply stating that I am wrong?

Let me ask you this: if theoretically there was an easy way to have all guns removed from citizens, good and bad, would you accept that?

There are 2 reasons for my belief.
 The first and main reason is:
You and me both know what banning guns will accomplish.
Good people will not have guns, Bad people like that villain from today or Roof will get guns.
We all know this.
Whoever would think that a criminal wouldn't get a firearm because it's illegal??!
So for that reason on this question: if theoretically there was an easy way to have all guns removed from citizens, good and bad, would you accept that?

Then you're probably right.

But my 2nd reason is our country was founded on/by a constitution and we have to follow it, if we don't where are we stopping?
Gay marriage, twisting the "anchor baby" law?
Where are we stopping?
Our nation has to be based on some type of special something.
So for that reason I 'might' oppose it.

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Re: Ban guns
« Reply #195 on: August 26, 2015, 10:32:52 AM »
You and me both know what banning guns will accomplish.
Good people will not have guns, Bad people like that villain from today or Roof will get guns.
We all know this.
Whoever would think that a criminal wouldn't get a firearm because it's illegal??!

Nope, Roof had a legal gun. There is no proof that he would have gone out of his way to obtain one illegally. Same goes for the Virginia Tech massacre.

The criminals with illegal guns you are referring to are 95% gangs and drug dealers.

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Re: Ban guns
« Reply #196 on: August 26, 2015, 10:34:12 AM »



There are 2 reasons for my belief.
 The first and main reason is:So for that reason on this question: if theoretically there was an easy way to have all guns removed from citizens, good and bad, would you accept that?

Then you're probably right.

But my 2nd reason is our country was founded on/by a constitution and we have to follow it, if we don't where are we stopping?
Gay marriage, twisting the "anchor baby" law?
Where are we stopping?
Our nation has to be based on some type of special something.
So for that reason I 'might' oppose it.

And for this reason

Yes, if you can magically remove all guns from everywhere, America would be safer.  Is that possible?  No.  Is it legal?  No.


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Re: Ban guns
« Reply #197 on: August 26, 2015, 10:36:10 AM »
Nope, Roof had a legal gun. There is no proof that he would have gone out of his way to obtain one illegally. Same goes for the Virginia Tech massacre.

The criminals with illegal guns you are referring to are 95% gangs and drug dealers.
Uhu, your point being?
I didn't say they didn't.
I said they would get it even if it would be illegal and you and me both know it, please don't try fooling me that you believe differently.

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Re: Ban guns
« Reply #198 on: August 26, 2015, 10:39:13 AM »
Yes, if you can magically remove all guns from everywhere, America would be safer.  Is that possible?  No.  Is it legal?  No.

Correct. My opinion isn't that we should go door-to-door and confiscate guns. My opinion is that America would probably be safer today if the 2nd Amendment was removed after the Revolutionary War. In other words, I believe that we have a serious gun problem in America today.

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Re: Ban guns
« Reply #199 on: August 26, 2015, 10:39:33 AM »
Btw they just identified the guy as a disgruntled TV worker.
Although it doesn't make sense.
At least not from that station.