Guns Master Thread

[jj1000]

1.  Anyone caught with an illegal gun, 10 years in prison minimum, no parole. 
2.  More suicide prevention/education.

90% of gun deaths eliminated...

3. The prison system is overwhelmed and the government goes bankrupt.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

3. The prison system is overwhelmed and the government goes bankrupt.

Put a fence around NY and send them all there. Gives me an idea for a movie.

[David Smith]

3. The prison system is overwhelmed and the government goes bankrupt.

Forget about the stinking government going bankrupt, those are PEOPLE in there we're talking about!

[jj1000]

Forget about the stinking government going bankrupt, those are PEOPLE in there we're talking about!

So?

[jj1000]

Put a fence around NY and send them all there. Gives me an idea for a movie.

Now we are getting somewhere

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Now we are getting somewhere

Can you say Snake Plissken?

[ShlockDoc]

You are dreaming. You can have the penalty be life in prison and it will no effect on inner city violence or mass killings.

I disagree, it would have a very significant impact on inner city violence.  Perpetrators would either already be in jail or would fear getting caught with a gun if there were zero tolerance.  Non-urban mass killings is a tougher nut to crack but it's a tiny percentage of gun deaths.  It needs to involve mental health professionals working with lawmakers to make new policies, I just don't know what the solution is to that...

[ShlockDoc]

3. The prison system is overwhelmed and the government goes bankrupt.

The government is already bankrupt but spends anyway on its priorities.  It can keep passing laws that only restrict those that keep laws or it can put bad guys in jail.  If the prison system can't hold all the bad guys, build more prisons, don't let bad guys stay on the street to kill more people...

[Yammer]

3. The prison system is overwhelmed and the government goes bankrupt.

If the drug laws get revamped and we stop the massive incarceration for drugs then we"'ll have over enough room

[Yammer]

Or we would have lost WWII to the Germans.

Hard thing telling the future is.

Exactly why would we have lost!?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

President talking about the shooting and national news breaks away to get there ratings. So sad.

[David Smith]

President talking about the shooting and national news breaks away to get there ratings. So sad.

President blamed it on the republicans. What else is new?

[ShlockDoc]

President talking about the shooting and national news breaks away to get there ratings. So sad.

Why does he only speak and get emotional when white people get shot?  Why doesn't he come out and talk about urban violence that kills FAR more than these maniacal mass shootings.   Why didn't he speak after:

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-labor-day-2015-weekend-violence-shootings-324747211.html

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-weekend-violence-20150720-story.html

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/14-People-Shot-in-15-Hours-in-Chicago-Following-Violent-Weekend-329949051.html

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/08/5_dead_10_wounded_over_bloody.html

http://wreg.com/2015/08/31/17-shot-3-fatally-during-bloody-weekend-in-memphis/

http://wreg.com/2015/06/21/13-people-shot-during-violent-holiday-weekend-in-memphis/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/7-people-shot-in-dc-as-labor-day-weekend-comes-to-a-bloody-end/2015/09/08/bc1f3f36-55e0-11e5-b8c9-944725fcd3b9_story.html

http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/08/violence-explodes-in-dc-over-the-weekend-with-10-shot-10-stabbed/

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-gang-violence-20150727-story.html

#BlackLivesMatter

[David Smith]

Why does he only speak and get emotional when white people get shot?  Why doesn't he come out and talk about urban violence that kills FAR more than these maniacal mass shootings.   Why didn't he speak after:

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-labor-day-2015-weekend-violence-shootings-324747211.html

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-weekend-violence-20150720-story.html

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/14-People-Shot-in-15-Hours-in-Chicago-Following-Violent-Weekend-329949051.html

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/08/5_dead_10_wounded_over_bloody.html

#BlackLivesMatter

You racist, those were black shooters. How dare you mention them!

[ChaimMoskowitz]

President blamed it on the republicans. What else is new?

You only heard what you wanted to hear.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Why does he only speak and get emotional when white people get shot? 

I can ask the same question in a slightly different way about DDF.

[David Smith]

You only heard what you wanted to hear.

What did you hear?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

What did you hear?

That something has to be done or expect the same thing every few months. That even gun owners understand something has to be done.

[ShlockDoc]

That something has to be done or expect the same thing every few months. That even gun owners understand something has to be done.

That's what I heard.  But he keeps saying that people don't want gun control or "common sense measures".  The flaw is that there already is gun and control and many many measures.  Those that disagree with him don't want MORE gun control.

[David Smith]

That something has to be done or expect the same thing every few months. That even gun owners understand something has to be done.

And you're calling ME selectively deaf?!