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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #760 on: October 03, 2017, 09:40:55 PM »
It just seems it would be harder to shoot yourself.
That method is a more difficult one, but swallowing several handfuls of pills...

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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #761 on: October 04, 2017, 11:34:11 AM »
Hey media a bump stock does not turn an AR-15 into full auto. With that said it should still be banned with HCM!!!
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #763 on: October 04, 2017, 12:41:16 PM »
Hey media a bump stock does not turn an AR-15 into full auto. With that said it should still be banned with HCM!!!
Ignorant question. How difficult and how long does it take to switch magazines?
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #764 on: October 04, 2017, 12:44:53 PM »
Ignorant question. How difficult and how long does it take to switch magazines?
Seconds and a blind person can do it.
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #765 on: October 04, 2017, 12:46:01 PM »
Seconds and a blind person can do it.
So how would banning HCMs make a noticeable difference?
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #766 on: October 04, 2017, 12:48:07 PM »
So how would banning HCMs make a noticeable difference?
At 10+ rounds a second it would have made a difference, big difference!!!
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #767 on: October 04, 2017, 12:50:10 PM »
At 10+ rounds a second it would have made a difference, big difference!!!
How many fewer injuries would you estimate had he shot 10 fewer rounds each minute? How about in other mass shootings?
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #768 on: October 04, 2017, 01:06:28 PM »
How many fewer injuries would you estimate had he shot 10 fewer rounds each minute? How about in other mass shootings?
huge numbers less
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #769 on: October 04, 2017, 01:08:15 PM »
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #770 on: October 04, 2017, 01:11:24 PM »
How?
In most cases these people can carry a limited number of magazines that are easily accessible. So if he carries 6 magazines into a movie theater that's 60-600 bullets depending in magazine size.
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #771 on: October 04, 2017, 01:26:35 PM »
huge numbers less
Regardless, to make policy based on mass shootings --which are a tiny fraction of a percent of all gun deaths-- is just ridiculous.

and on that note, bump:
Now a trivia question for bonus points: Up until the Orlando nightclub massacre, what was the deadliest shooting and what gun(s) were used?

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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #772 on: October 04, 2017, 01:34:56 PM »
Ignorant question. How difficult and how long does it take to switch magazines?
Depends who's doing it :)



Someone like the Vegas shooter who was obviously highly trained can certainly do it really quickly :P

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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #773 on: October 04, 2017, 01:48:39 PM »
Regardless, to make policy based on mass shootings --which are a tiny fraction of a percent of all gun deaths-- is just ridiculous.
So your answer is do nothing and expect a different result?
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #774 on: October 04, 2017, 01:54:45 PM »
So your answer is do nothing and expect a different result?
No, his answer is to find what will make a difference. Your answer is to do something he feels is irrelevant and get expect different results.
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #775 on: October 04, 2017, 01:55:00 PM »
So your answer is do nothing and expect a different result?

Or do something about the issues that actually are causing the significant percentage of gun deaths. 

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« Reply #776 on: October 04, 2017, 01:59:12 PM »
No, his answer is to find what will make a difference. Your answer is to do something he feels is irrelevant and get expect different results.
Or do something about the issues that actually are causing the significant percentage of gun deaths. 
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #777 on: October 04, 2017, 02:01:11 PM »
No, his answer is to find what will make a difference. Your answer is to do something he feels is irrelevant and get expect different results.
That's the whole problem with the discussion. The one side always says that won't work but has no idea what will. Then you have the other side that just wants to ban guns. The ones in the middle who understand there is no practical use for HCM and bump stocks among other things get lost in the discussion.
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #778 on: October 04, 2017, 02:02:23 PM »
Or do something about the issues that actually are causing the significant percentage of gun deaths.
That would be to many hand guns available to the criminals. So what is your solution for that?
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #779 on: October 04, 2017, 02:03:22 PM »
That's the whole problem with the discussion. The one side always says that won't work but has no idea what will. Then you have the other side that just wants to ban guns. The ones in the middle who understand there is no practical use for HCM and bump stocks among other things get lost in the discussion.
But if it won't work then there is still no point. I agree with your point about the problem with the discussion.
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