Guns Master Thread

[Shauly101]

with the latest attack over the past Shaboss do you think i stand a chance getting a license in NY? also is there anyone here with a NYC license that can guide me or provide tips?

[Dr Moose]

with the latest attack over the past Shaboss do you think i stand a chance getting a license in NY? also is there anyone here with a NYC license that can guide me or provide tips?

New York state isn't so hard, NYC on the other hand is impossible.

[12HRS]

New York state isn't so hard, NYC on the other hand is impossible.

Impossible if you come at it from the angle of private citizen wanting to undercover carry.

IIRC there is a way to do it as a security guard with the licensure that comes with. Someone else would probably know more details.

[henche]

Realistically, what does it cost to go from noob to someone who is safer with a gun in a shooting than without?  Including classes, gun, ammo, range hours, etc? (Plus applicable licensing fees which presumably vary)

[jj1000]

New York state isn't so hard, NYC on the other hand is impossible.

What about just keeping a few guns inside a shul, and members don't take the guns outside shul? Also impossible?

[jj1000]

Realistically, what does it cost to go from noob to someone who is safer with a gun in a shooting than without?  Including classes, gun, ammo, range hours, etc? (Plus applicable licensing fees which presumably vary)

I don't think anyone can give you a number on that, and it depends on the person.

What's it cost to become a great public speaker? Depends on the person...

As for a guesstimate, Maybe around $1.5k if you want to do it right. But can be as low as $500 if you pick it up quick and are a quick study...

(A friend of mine does this for a living, I'll ask him...)

[Dr Moose]

What about just keeping a few guns inside a shul, and members don't take the guns outside shul? Also impossible?

You'll need a license to buy said guns. If my name is associated with a gun, I'm not going to let it just sit around so anyone could take it and commit a crime which will automatically associate me.

[jj1000]

I don't think anyone can give you a number on that, and it depends on the person.

What's it cost to become a great public speaker? Depends on the person...

As for a guesstimate, Maybe around $1.5k if you want to do it right. But can be as low as $500 if you pick it up quick and are a quick study...

(A friend of mine does this for a living, I'll ask him...)

Friend said that this sounds right.

He offers shul security courses, safety procedures, private training etc, he does amazing work. Based out of California. You can contact him here https://www.yscsecurity.com/

Can read about what they do here MagenAmUSA.org and feel free to donate

[yesitsme]

What about just keeping a few guns inside a shul, and members don't take the guns outside shul? Also impossible?

defibrillator + gun combo kit

[jj1000]

defibrillator + gun combo kit

Two things I strongly believe every shul should have, with people trained to use both...

So what do you guys think, should we start posting gun deals on DDMS?

[as2]

defibrillator + gun combo kit

Only issue, is as stated above. A gun is registered to an owner, and any use of it is the liability of said owner, while a defibrillator is obtained and the liability is on the user.

Two things I strongly believe every shul should have, with people trained to use both...

So what do you guys think, should we start posting gun deals on DDMS?

Many shuls where I am already have armed congregants. Some systematically placed, some just happen to be. I'd be all for gun deal on MS!

[chevron]

I hate being right in this case, and even Zalman myer-smith used to think I was a radical.

Every shull should have 2+ trained armed congregants. Those on hand can respond in seconds, where the police can take minutes and be too late.

[12HRS]

Two things I strongly believe every shul should have, with people trained to use both...

So what do you guys think, should we start posting gun deals on DDMS?

Any worse then posting pregnancy tests?

[zale]

Two things I strongly believe every shul should have, with people trained to use both...

So what do you guys think, should we start posting gun deals on DDMS?

Perhaps we can start with a write-up of how to go about obtaining a license or a concealed-carry permit in states like NY?

[Dr Moose]

Perhaps we can start with a write-up of how to go about obtaining a license or a concealed-carry permit in states like NY?

Every county is different procedure.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

I don't think anyone can give you a number on that, and it depends on the person.

What's it cost to become a great public speaker? Depends on the person...

As for a guesstimate, Maybe around $1.5k if you want to do it right. But can be as low as $500 if you pick it up quick and are a quick study...

(A friend of mine does this for a living, I'll ask him...)

Just like no matter how much you spend some individuals will never be great speakers. The same is true about gun owners but with deadly consequences.

[jj1000]

Just like no matter how much you spend some individuals will never be great speakers. The same is true about gun owners but with deadly consequences.

100%.

[jj1000]

Any worse then posting pregnancy tests?

I have no idea what the connection is...

One makes life, one ends life?

[jj1000]

Only issue, is as stated above. A gun is registered to an owner, and any use of it is the liability of said owner

Gotcha, I didn't realize just owning a gun for your home was so hard in NYC, I thought a carry permit was impossible.

Fwiu shot guns are easier in NY, maybe talk to an expert if they would help for a mass shooting in a shul or not.

[avromie7]

You'll need a license to buy said guns. If my name is associated with a gun, I'm not going to let it just sit around so anyone could take it and commit a crime which will automatically associate me.

I know a shul that has a safe and a few members keep guns there. They pick them up on their way in and put them back on their way out.