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Sandy hook coincidence?
« on: December 20, 2012, 06:58:30 PM »
While I was thinking about the whole situation in my head I came up with some interesting facts. So sad.

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Did anyone realize that:

Sandy hook and Hurricane Sandy = same name

Amount of people that passed away (26) = gematria Shem Hashem

The initials of Sandy Hook Elementary School is SHES (6) = the tragedy happened on the 6th day of Chanukah

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Re: Sandy hook coincidence?
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2012, 07:11:45 PM »
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Re: Sandy hook coincidence?
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2012, 07:17:21 PM »
There has to a conspiracy connection here.  :)
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Re: Sandy hook coincidence?
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2012, 08:10:18 PM »
There has to a conspiracy connection here.  :)



Shem Hashem is pretty scary



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Re: Sandy hook coincidence?
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2012, 08:11:27 PM »


Shem Hashem is pretty scary



Are you being serious?
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Re: Sandy hook coincidence?
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2012, 08:12:46 PM »
Serious or not, what are the chances

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Re: Sandy hook coincidence?
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2012, 08:14:11 PM »
The initials of Sandy Hook Elementary School is SHES (6) = the tragedy happened on the 6th day of Chanukah
Lets play along and assume there is some kind of connection between 'Sandy Hook Elementary School' and the number 6, and lets ignore the fact every day of the year is probably the 6th of something. What difference does it make?
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Re: Sandy hook coincidence?
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2012, 08:16:09 PM »
Well maybe I was a little bored.  ::)

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Re: Sandy hook coincidence?
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2012, 08:17:04 PM »
Well maybe I was a little bored.  ::)
I was assuming someone else thought of this.

So what significance is there in that connection?
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Re: Sandy hook coincidence?
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2012, 08:17:56 PM »
Lets play along and assume there is some kind of connection between 'Sandy Hook Elementary School' and the number 6, and lets ignore the fact every day of the year is probably the 6th of something. What difference does it make?

The only thing I infer from the relationship has that someone is really bored.

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Re: Sandy hook coincidence?
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2012, 08:21:54 PM »

Kol peronios shebo leoilam ainoi ela bishvil yisroel.
I apologize. I didn't think OP thought of this himself, however I am glad he can explain his point.



Kol peronios shebo leoilam ainoi ela bishvil yisroel.

I didn't disagree. Yet what would the fact that the schools name is related to the name of day mean?
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Re: Sandy hook coincidence?
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2012, 08:25:30 PM »

I didn't disagree. Yet what would the fact that the schools name is related to the name of day mean?

Sir, I happen to agree with you.
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Re: Sandy hook coincidence?
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2012, 08:28:13 PM »
I'm not sure this would be consider poronus though, pornous generally means a larger scale disaster.

There is also the issue of bechira here, don't if we can say it came for a reason with bechira.
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Re: Sandy hook coincidence?
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2012, 08:34:45 PM »
I'm not sure this would be consider poronus though, pornous generally means a larger scale disaster.

There is also the issue of bechira here, don't if we can say it came for a reason with bechira.

What makes you say that? I would assume any major event should fit under that catergory, But definitely a good question.

2. Pharoh also had bechira as did everey other wicked person, dosen't mean that they won't get punished and dosen't mean that it wasn't g-d's plan. Bechirah is on the indivisual not on the overall hashgacha pratis. Look in the Tomer Devorah for an explanaition on why pharaoh etc; will be punished for doing g-d's will.
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Re: Sandy hook coincidence?
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2012, 08:37:49 PM »
What makes you say that? I would assume any major event should fit under that catergory, But definitely a good question.

2. Pharoh also had bechira as did everey other wicked person, dosen't mean that they won't get punished and dosen't mean that it wasn't g-d's plan. Bechirah is on the indivisual not on the overall hashgacha pratis. Look in the Tomer Devorah for an explanaition on why pharaoh etc; will be punished for doing g-d's will.
This might have been hyped by the media, but it was not a major event, even if it was extra weird and scary
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Re: Sandy hook coincidence?
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2012, 09:06:08 PM »

2. Pharoh also had bechira as did everey other wicked person, dosen't mean that they won't get punished and dosen't mean that it wasn't g-d's plan. Bechirah is on the indivisual not on the overall hashgacha pratis. Look in the Tomer Devorah for an explanaition on why pharaoh etc; will be punished for doing g-d's will.
The idea of Kol Pornous might be the cause for an incident. If that is correct, lechora it would only apply to something which is missing a cause - an act of G-d. Something that has a cause (bechira) would not need an explanation, and thus might not be because of am yisroel.
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Re: Re: Sandy hook coincidence?
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2012, 09:30:18 PM »
While I was thinking about the whole situation in my head I came up with some interesting facts. So sad.

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Did anyone realize that:

Sandy hook and Hurricane Sandy = same name

Amount of people that passed away (26) = gematria Shem Hashem

The initials of Sandy Hook Elementary School is SHES (6) = the tragedy happened on the 6th day of Chanukah

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Our hearts go out to the bereaved family's, you are all in our prayers!
Actually, it was 27 people killed excluding the gunman, his mother is also human.

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Re: Re: Sandy hook coincidence?
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2012, 09:32:22 PM »
Actually, it was 27 people killed excluding the gunman, his mother is also human.
The shooter is also Gods creation

why are we even being busy with sheer stupidity 

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Re: Sandy hook coincidence?
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2012, 09:35:07 PM »
oy vey
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The initials of Sandy Hook Elementary School is SHES (6)
You seem to be wrong.

Shesh is 6, not Shes. That would be one of the sons of Adam.

I know its JS, but there should be some limit....

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Re: Re: Sandy hook coincidence?
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2012, 09:36:46 PM »
+1You seem to be wrong.

Shesh is 6, not Shes. That would be one of the sons of Adam.

I know its JS, but there should be some limit....
In JS one is not entitled to typos?!