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Re: Using AAdvantage miles? What happened to ELAL award inventory?
« Reply #80 on: February 14, 2013, 12:51:41 AM »
Wow, was that stuff brought up at the LY DO?
It wasn't. I wish Side Incomer had brought it up b/f the mtg.
LY has started responding to posts on FT which was one of the results of the mtg. Should I post s/t there?

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Re: Using AAdvantage miles? What happened to ELAL award inventory?
« Reply #81 on: February 14, 2013, 12:54:54 AM »
Should I post s/t there?
Why not?
You didn't get any contact emails from the DO?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Using AAdvantage miles? What happened to ELAL award inventory?
« Reply #82 on: February 14, 2013, 12:56:01 AM »
It wasn't. I wish Side Incomer had brought it up b/f the mtg.
LY has started responding to posts on FT which was one of the results of the mtg. Should I post s/t there?
Posting this on F/T would start a flaming / bashing thread against the "Brooklyn abusers"
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Re: Using AAdvantage miles? What happened to ELAL award inventory?
« Reply #83 on: February 14, 2013, 12:59:17 AM »
Posting this on F/T would start a flaming / bashing thread against the "Brooklyn abusers"
So just post about the long holds.
Talk about how UA went from month holds to no holds and how it improved inventory.  Though I think US' 3 day policy is the sweet spot.
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Re: Using AAdvantage miles? What happened to ELAL award inventory?
« Reply #84 on: February 14, 2013, 01:21:20 AM »
So just post about the long holds.
Talk about how UA went from month holds to no holds and how it improved inventory.  Though I think US' 3 day policy is the sweet spot.
If LY would have 3 day holds, there would certainly decrease the abuse as well. Since TA's will be tired of keeping on holding flights every 3 days.
But now there is no reason why they shouldn't do it. It take them 2 minutes to reserve in their system, and then every 4 weeks makes only 5-6 times to refresh until they have someone to book, which they release the seats and they usually pop back instantly.
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Re: Using AAdvantage miles? What happened to ELAL award inventory?
« Reply #85 on: February 14, 2013, 03:14:55 AM »
If LY would have 3 day holds, there would certainly decrease the abuse as well. Since TA's will be tired of keeping on holding flights every 3 days.
But now there is no reason why they shouldn't do it. It take them 2 minutes to reserve in their system, and then every 4 weeks makes only 5-6 times to refresh until they have someone to book, which they release the seats and they usually pop back instantly.
So basically the TA is using his own miles? There is no way for a TA to book it with my miles? What do they charge to release a date and let me use my miles?

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Re: Using AAdvantage miles? What happened to ELAL award inventory?
« Reply #86 on: February 14, 2013, 09:28:01 AM »
LY inventory can't get any worse as of yet.

It's not their fault IMHO.

They need to make 2 important changed to the matmid program, and then suddenly you'll see a bunch of availability:
1. not holding flight for more than 2-3 days. (Vs. 4 weeks as of now).
2. not letting TA's book matmid awards in their the regular system. I know personally many that keep on blocking all seats around the peak seasons (such as Lag boimar and Pesach), and rebooking them every four weeks, until they have a customer.

Good point, didn't think of the TA part...

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Re: Using AAdvantage miles? What happened to ELAL award inventory?
« Reply #87 on: February 14, 2013, 10:20:34 AM »
So basically the TA is using his own miles? There is no way for a TA to book it with my miles? What do they charge to release a date and let me use my miles?
They are holding it like a regular reservation with no account.
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Re: Using AAdvantage miles? What happened to ELAL award inventory?
« Reply #88 on: February 20, 2013, 11:42:48 PM »
@side Incomer,

I couldn't get the rep to book a hkg-tlv using the method you mentioned...Do you have any other tips for pushing this through?

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Re: Using AAdvantage miles? What happened to ELAL award inventory?
« Reply #89 on: February 21, 2013, 12:04:23 AM »
Here's my experience:

1)In general I've found that although EF shows more than 2 seats. AA can only see a max of 2 seats at a time. What you have to do is first book 2 and then usually the rest populate in their system after a few minutes. (by the time they finish the first booking)

2) Regarding them seeing LY availability, ask them to search for coach seats. I have had them find the business seats only when they first told me that no biz avail. I tried arguing but then I asked about coach and she is like "Oh wow the bi popped up under coach" she didn't think it would work but this has been working well. I have booked quite a few AA LY tickets in the last few days.

3)Many times if I have had issues the LY Liaison to AA has been helpful. Ask a supervisor to send them a message and check back a while later.

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Re: Using AAdvantage miles? What happened to ELAL award inventory?
« Reply #90 on: February 21, 2013, 12:12:30 AM »
Here's my experience:

1)In general I've found that although EF shows more than 2 seats. AA can only see a max of 2 seats at a time. What you have to do is first book 2 and then usually the rest populate in their system after a few minutes. (by the time they finish the first booking)
Paging @SI. . . ;)

ETA: I'm referring to the argument in this thread
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=24568.msg398567#msg398567

Looks like moish got another one on his side. ..
« Last Edit: February 21, 2013, 12:18:11 AM by Saver2000 »

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Re: Using AAdvantage miles? What happened to ELAL award inventory?
« Reply #91 on: February 21, 2013, 02:05:18 AM »
Paging @SI. . . ;)

ETA: I'm referring to the argument in this thread
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=24568.msg398567#msg398567

Looks like moish got another one on his side. ..
its not a sides issue, im glad he was able to book 4 in a shot, was just stating my experiences as well.

to give hope to one who might be only be able to book 2 when he sees more available

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Re: Using AAdvantage miles? What happened to ELAL award inventory?
« Reply #92 on: February 21, 2013, 02:19:24 AM »
its not a sides issue, im glad he was able to book 4 in a shot, was just stating my experiences as well.

to give hope to one who might be only be able to book 2 when he sees more available
Yea I understand.  Not trying to make an argument.  Just pointing it out. 


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Re: Using AAdvantage miles? What happened to ELAL award inventory?
« Reply #93 on: February 21, 2013, 02:25:57 AM »
I had luck this week of booking 4 tix of DPS - HKG - TLV in biz class.
They need to use the old reservation system which is called Sabre (or s/t like that).

Not all agents seem motivated enough to search for it, so PUTPAC if you need to.

And the 2 + 2 trick worked for me.

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Re: Using AAdvantage miles? What happened to ELAL award inventory?
« Reply #94 on: February 21, 2013, 09:47:14 AM »
Now theyre saying that ELAL inventory cannot be checked/booked, call back later.

Interestingly, two days ago, booked TLV-HKG Y as part of a larger trip on the first call.

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Re: Using AAdvantage miles? What happened to ELAL award inventory?
« Reply #95 on: February 21, 2013, 11:18:57 AM »
Now theyre saying that ELAL inventory cannot be checked/booked, call back later.

Interestingly, two days ago, booked TLV-HKG Y as part of a larger trip on the first call.
thats what ive been getting for weeks. has a/o booked from tlv to bkk/hkg recently?

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Re: Using AAdvantage miles? What happened to ELAL award inventory?
« Reply #96 on: February 21, 2013, 11:22:52 AM »
thats what ive been getting for weeks. has a/o booked from tlv to bkk/hkg recently?
I had luck this week of booking 4 tix of DPS - HKG - TLV in biz class.
They need to use the old reservation system which is called Sabre (or s/t like that).

Not all agents seem motivated enough to search for it, so PUTPAC if you need to.

And the 2 + 2 trick worked for me.
Life isn't about checking the boxes. Nobody cares.

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Re: Using AAdvantage miles? What happened to ELAL award inventory?
« Reply #97 on: February 21, 2013, 12:00:07 PM »
thats what ive been getting for weeks. has a/o booked from tlv to bkk/hkg recently?
Booked many times. though every time it was a pita.
Never got anything on my first call though.

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Re: Using AAdvantage miles? What happened to ELAL award inventory?
« Reply #98 on: February 21, 2013, 06:20:23 PM »
finally found someone that can book tlv-hkg-sin  bkk-hkg-tlv( she said she used an old system, must of been Sabre). unfortunately i didnt book bc they want over $1100 for an infant. arrrgggg

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Re: Using AAdvantage miles? What happened to ELAL award inventory?
« Reply #99 on: February 21, 2013, 07:14:47 PM »
If booking one way with AA miles NYC-TLV on ELAL 45k miles is there any other leg you can add to be included in this trip?