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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #165 on: January 05, 2013, 09:04:54 PM »
Gut Voch everyone!  :)

So I'd like to say a few things to Mr. Chaikel. I'll address you directly which is something you apparently lack the courage to do.

First of all, What in the world does this mean?


Not because of some God run mafia, or Rumpelstiltskinain threats,



Onward..

But after seeing posts like this
And this!?
Seriously, if the OP a) doesn't believe there is a better life to come, and b) Is ready to commit suicide if he believed such a thing, well then he is way beyond the help of a forum, and critically needs immediate therapy and assistance. I would say his kid's life is in danger, both spiritually and physically, as this is a deeply disturbed attitude manifested by the kinds of parents that dump their kids in garbage cans. Something that a parent can't begin to comprehend, but people snap.
(HT MosheP for really hitting it out of the park in some posts)

You took a response I made to moko out of context, twisted it and interpreted it to mean I was saying that I do not believe in the afterlife and the I am ready to commit suicide if I knew it gets better, two thing I most definitely did not say. Then you drew a conclusion from these two falsehoods and proclaimed that I am the type of person who would throw my child in a garbage bin.

Way to elevate this conversation.

It is clear you did not actually read what I wrote with any intention of understanding it.

Furthermore, asking others who may know me to intervene based on a warped reading of my post and without even an armchair therapists understanding of  me or my dilemma is irresponsible and does not reflect well on you or our community as a whole.

I sincerely hope that the others posting in this thread take a moment to realize this and to assert their position on the side of sanity and thoughtfulness.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2013, 09:08:47 PM by yehuda S »
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #166 on: January 05, 2013, 09:07:34 PM »
I sincerely hope that the others posting in this thread take a moment to realize this and to assert their position on the side of sanity and thoughtfulness.

Your posts, including the title of this thread, come from a place of emotion, not thoughtfulness. Please hold yourself to the same standards you hold others to.
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #167 on: January 05, 2013, 10:49:54 PM »
Your posts, including the title of this thread, come from a place of emotion, not thoughtfulness. Please hold yourself to the same standards you hold others to.
Come on the point was sanity and in this context if you think about your emotions that would count as thoughtfulness
(is there a deeper reason you don't want this thread to go on)

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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #168 on: January 05, 2013, 10:54:30 PM »
OK I think some people are reading a bit too much into this. The OP does not seem suicidal and he does not hate babies (his own or any others), he is just having a bit of an (understandable) hard time now. How many of you ever dealt with a colicky baby? B"H my son hasn't put me through that but I have a younger brother who was, and even though this was over 15 years ago, and I was only 9 at the time I still remember it, it's enough to make any parent question his/her abilities.

Put it this way: 1 of the most rewarding experiences for me as a father is when my baby is crying, and I pick him up, rock him and after a few minutes he calms down and is happy. That makes me feel like I'm a good father. That I can provide for this helpless person in my arms. Now imagine if after hours of holding, rocking, bouncing, singing, holding on the arm, holding on the shoulder etc. etc. etc. the baby is still shrieking like nothing happened. It's enough to make YOU feel helpless as if you're doing something wrong.

All the satisfaction people have been talking about untill now comes from feeling confident that you can take care of your baby, take that away and you are left with just the stress and hardships and sleepless nights.

Dont worry! OP jr. will grow out of her colic soon enough and than OP will be the doting proud father he knows he can be!
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #169 on: January 05, 2013, 10:59:15 PM »
OK I think some people are reading a bit too much into this. The OP does not seem suicidal and he does not hate babies (his own or any others), he is just having a bit of an (understandable) hard time now. How many of you ever dealt with a colicky baby? B"H my son hasn't put me through that but I have a younger brother who was, and even though this was over 15 years ago, and I was only 9 at the time I still remember it, it's enough to make any parent question his/her abilities.

Put it this way: 1 of the most rewarding experiences for me as a father is when my baby is crying, and I pick him up, rock him and after a few minutes he calms down and is happy. That makes me feel like I'm a good father. That I can provide for this helpless person in my arms. Now imagine if after hours of holding, rocking, bouncing, singing, holding on the arm, holding on the shoulder etc. etc. etc. the baby is still shrieking like nothing happened. It's enough to make YOU feel helpless as if you're doing something wrong.

All the satisfaction people have been talking about untill now comes from feeling confident that you can take care of your baby, take that away and you are left with just the stress and hardships and sleepless nights.

Dont worry! OP jr. will grow out of her colic soon enough and than OP will be the doting proud father he knows he can be!
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #170 on: January 05, 2013, 11:07:15 PM »
OK I think some people are reading a bit too much into this. The OP does not seem suicidal and he does not hate babies (his own or any others), he is just having a bit of an (understandable) hard time now. How many of you ever dealt with a colicky baby? B"H my son hasn't put me through that but I have a younger brother who was, and even though this was over 15 years ago, and I was only 9 at the time I still remember it, it's enough to make any parent question his/her abilities.

Put it this way: 1 of the most rewarding experiences for me as a father is when my baby is crying, and I pick him up, rock him and after a few minutes he calms down and is happy. That makes me feel like I'm a good father. That I can provide for this helpless person in my arms. Now imagine if after hours of holding, rocking, bouncing, singing, holding on the arm, holding on the shoulder etc. etc. etc. the baby is still shrieking like nothing happened. It's enough to make YOU feel helpless as if you're doing something wrong.

All the satisfaction people have been talking about untill now comes from feeling confident that you can take care of your baby, take that away and you are left with just the stress and hardships and sleepless nights.

Dont worry! OP jr. will grow out of her colic soon enough and than OP will be the doting proud father he knows he can be!
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #171 on: January 05, 2013, 11:11:51 PM »
Been there done that.
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guess u don't feel as strongly about it as Dan  ;)

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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #172 on: January 05, 2013, 11:13:14 PM »

Dont worry! OP jr. will grow out of her colic soon enough and than OP will be the doting proud father he knows he can be!
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #173 on: January 05, 2013, 11:13:33 PM »
guess u don't feel as strongly about it as Dan  ;)
Maybe they are using different scales.  :P
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #174 on: January 05, 2013, 11:14:36 PM »
Maybe they are using different scales.  :P
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #175 on: January 05, 2013, 11:15:36 PM »
guess u don't feel as strongly about it as Dan  ;)
Lol I was doing percentages more zeroes wouldn't mean much (at least in retrospect I was)

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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #176 on: January 05, 2013, 11:16:20 PM »
Here is what you should all do. Print out this thread (maybe remove a couple of posts) and have your parents read it. I think they will get a kick out of it.
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #177 on: January 05, 2013, 11:17:52 PM »
Here is what you should all do. Print out this thread (maybe remove a couple of posts) and have your parents read it. I think they will get a kick out of it.
ur making me laugh tonight  ;D

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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #178 on: January 05, 2013, 11:21:09 PM »
ur making me laugh tonight  ;D
Like this thread does for me?
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #179 on: January 05, 2013, 11:23:04 PM »
Like this thread does for me?
again  ;D
by the way-do u have kids