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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #260 on: January 07, 2013, 10:01:08 AM »
Not for discussion here or now but not so pashut
yup IIRC there is a Machlokes if Shituf is Mutar for B"N

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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #261 on: January 07, 2013, 10:02:26 AM »
It seems like just about everything is up for discussion... Regardless what I was trying to say was simply that Judaism (as opposed to every other major Abrahamic religion believes that there may be legitimate paths other than it's own.
True. Although modern Catholic thought on the matter is not so clear. It seems to be a machlokes haposkim whether Jews are damned forever
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #262 on: January 07, 2013, 10:03:00 AM »
yup IIRC there is a Machlokes if Shituf is Mutar for B"N
Ding ding ding. But not for discussion here or now
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #263 on: January 07, 2013, 10:04:57 AM »
It seems like just about everything is up for discussion... Regardless what I was trying to say was simply that Judaism (as opposed to every other major Abrahamic religion believes that there may be legitimate paths other than it's own.
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #264 on: January 07, 2013, 10:06:23 AM »
Ding ding ding. But not for discussion here or now
Anyone care to clue me in on what I am not understanding?
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #265 on: January 07, 2013, 10:20:01 AM »
Is there an existing religion thread I can fork this to?
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #266 on: January 07, 2013, 10:33:13 AM »
If you start one no one takes responsibility to what will go on in there....

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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #267 on: January 07, 2013, 10:35:00 AM »
If you start one no one takes responsibility to what will go on in there....
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #268 on: January 07, 2013, 10:44:52 AM »
Is there an existing religion thread I can fork this to?
Even entertaining heretical thoughts is a terible aveira. Having a thread discusing religions may be not a good idea.
If it would be up to me i would stop this thread also.

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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #269 on: January 07, 2013, 11:07:54 AM »
Is there an existing religion thread I can fork this to?
Please feel free to delete all my posts. Someone just clued me in.
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Re: Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #271 on: January 07, 2013, 11:15:06 AM »
I don’t think it is possible anyone will ever find out the religious creed they follow is the wrong one.

-1

To the extent that one 'knows' all 999 other religions are wrong, one can also come to that same level of 'knowledge' that one's own religion is wrong too. But religion is such a huge investment in life (and after-life) that I would hope one is as sure as humanely possible that it is correct before devoting their entire being to it.
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #272 on: January 07, 2013, 11:33:42 AM »
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To the extent that one 'knows' all 999 other religions are wrong, one can also come to that same level of 'knowledge' that one's own religion is wrong too. But religion is such a huge investment in life (and after-life) that I would hope one is as sure as humanely possible that it is correct before devoting their entire being to it.
I would like to continue this but I am afraid some/many will be offended and that is not my purpose. It is come to my attention that some religions prohibit the discussion of certain things. Anyway most of you would probably agree that I have said too much already.  :)

Back OT. For the older ones here at what age (childs) would you say is the turning point that parenting gets easier?
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #273 on: January 07, 2013, 11:41:42 AM »
I think the first turning point (and this is all I can comment on as this is how old my oldest is) is three. At that point you can start to reason with them
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #274 on: January 07, 2013, 11:44:07 AM »
I think the first turning point (and this is all I can comment on as this is how old my oldest is) is three. At that point you can start to reason with them

+1. It still isn't easy, but definitely makes life much simpler when you can reason with the kid...

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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #275 on: January 07, 2013, 11:49:03 AM »

Back OT. For the older ones here at what age (childs) would you say is the turning point that parenting gets easier?
What do you think?
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #276 on: January 07, 2013, 11:58:06 AM »
IMO (for whatever its worth, my oldest is 1) It's when the child can start taking care of himself. At that point parenting transitions from nurturing your child to educating him (although in a way that is more of a responsibility with bigger consequences for failure).

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What do you think?

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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #277 on: January 07, 2013, 12:21:09 PM »
What do you think?
I would say it was their junior/senior year in HS or the year right after that.
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Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #278 on: January 07, 2013, 07:41:00 PM »
Guess ur kids didn't enter the shied duct crisis! And u don't have to worry about marrying off and supporting them! I Think up til about 3-4 is physically hard then til hs it's emotionally hard with parenting and then it becomes both after that!

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Re: Re: The truth about children - Warning: Controversial
« Reply #279 on: January 07, 2013, 08:00:30 PM »
And u don't have to worry about marrying off and supporting them!

Nor do you. You could instead give your kids the means to support themselves. Because if your kids are putting you in a place where you have to "worry that much" to support them, you probably shouldn't be.
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