Author Topic: Are we giving our children the means to support themselves?  (Read 6784 times)

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Re: Are we giving our children the means to support themselves?
« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2013, 04:42:41 PM »
I'm one of 6 boys.  3 of us are in our 20s now and the 3 of us went through the Chabad system for 8 years or so and received smicha.  Chabad is of course against going to college due to the pritzus that goes on there and so we don't have "real" undergrad educations.

I went onto graduate business school and got my MBA with a 3.98 GPA while helping to pay my way by tutoring other students who had gone to a real college.  2 of my younger brothers will going to grad school next year (1 in an ivy league law school and the other in med school).

Life is what you make of it...if you toil you will succeed.

This is a heartwarming story. But it's anecdotal at best. Try telling a guy who went to Yiddish speaking yeshivahs in Williamsburg his whole life that don't worry, with a couple of courses he can get into Harvard Med school.

In any case, can-do attitude is probably 65% of the education! You got it. Others got the don't-bother one.
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Re: Are we giving our children the means to support themselves?
« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2013, 05:09:21 PM »
I'm one of 6 boys.  3 of us are in our 20s now and the 3 of us went through the Chabad system for 8 years or so and received smicha.  Chabad is of course against going to college due to the pritzus that goes on there and so we don't have "real" undergrad educations.

I went onto graduate business school and got my MBA with a 3.98 GPA while helping to pay my way by tutoring other students who had gone to a real college.  2 of my younger brothers will going to grad school next year (1 in an ivy league law school and the other in med school).

Life is what you make of it...if you toil you will succeed.
if you dont mind me asking, where did you get the MBA?

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Re: Are we giving our children the means to support themselves?
« Reply #42 on: January 08, 2013, 05:49:03 PM »
This is a heartwarming story. But it's anecdotal at best. Try telling a guy who went to Yiddish speaking yeshivahs in Williamsburg his whole life that don't worry, with a couple of courses he can get into Harvard Med school.

In any case, can-do attitude is probably 65% of the education! You got it. Others got the don't-bother one.

Well if you want to get into the education that  many of the boys get that is a whole other story.

Meanwhile it's not 100% what school you went to, or where you can get into college.

          My friends and I always talk about when we look at our Grandparents generation many of them have more money than our parents or us have or will have.
 They came here. They worked hard. It's as simple as that.


Besides having to deal with the lack of education, the young adults today have to deal with the lack of motivation. And those that are motivated may have to deal with the their surroundings not being supportive of furthering their education or getting skills in a certain area.

We ( the general we of course) don't make it very conducive for young men (and women) to head in that direction.
"Not all who wander are lost"

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Re: Are we giving our children the means to support themselves?
« Reply #43 on: January 08, 2013, 07:55:16 PM »

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Re: Are we giving our children the means to support themselves?
« Reply #44 on: January 08, 2013, 09:39:31 PM »

an alternative for the last line: "So you have can afford to send your kids to college."

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Re: Are we giving our children the means to support themselves?
« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2013, 09:45:12 PM »
an alternative for the last line: "So you have can afford to send your kids to college."
+1
That's what I thought it was gonna say.

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Re: Are we giving our children the means to support themselves?
« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2013, 09:46:31 PM »
+1
That's what I thought it was gonna say.
Reminds of the joke of the fisherman who was told to get a job so he can make money and go fishing...

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Re: Are we giving our children the means to support themselves?
« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2013, 09:49:24 PM »
Reminds of the joke of the fisherman who was told to get a job so he can make money and go fishing...
The American businessman was at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them. The Mexican replied only a little while.
The American then asked why didn't he stay out longer and catch more fish? The Mexican said he had enough to support his family's immediate needs.The American then asked, but what do you do with the rest of your time? The Mexican fisherman said, "I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take siesta with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine and play guitar with my amigos, I have a full and busy life, senor."
The American scoffed, "I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds buy a bigger boat, with the proceeds from the bigger boat you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the processor, eventually opening your own cannery. You would control the product, processing and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually NYC where you will run your expanding enterprise."
The Mexican fisherman asked, "But senor, how long will this all take?" To which the American replied, "15-20 years." "But what then, senor?"The American laughed and said that's the best part. "When the time is right you would announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions.""Millions, senor? Then what?"
The American said, "Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take siesta with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos."

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Re: Are we giving our children the means to support themselves?
« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2013, 10:13:22 PM »

I went onto graduate business school and got my MBA with a 3.98 GPA.

Life is what you make of it...if you toil you will succeed.

wow very nice!  :) please dont take this the wrong way, but if you dont mind me asking why are so busy with credit card points etc opening closing etc. you should be able to get a great job with your MBA, or atleast pursue something with it.

then again maybe you are, and you just do this site on the side.
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Re: Are we giving our children the means to support themselves?
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2013, 10:18:18 PM »

wow very nice!  :) please dont take this the wrong way, but if you dont mind me asking why are so busy with credit card points etc opening closing etc. you should be able to get a great job with your MBA, or atleast pursue something with it.

then again maybe you are, and you just do this site on the side.
So that one day I'll be able to sleep late, run a blog, stay at home all day, play with my kids, take siestas with my wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where we could sip wine and play guitar with my amigos?
;)
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Are we giving our children the means to support themselves?
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2013, 10:23:18 PM »
So that one day I'll be able to sleep late, run a blog, stay at home all day, play with my kids, take siestas with my wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where we could sip wine and play guitar with my amigos?
;)
+1
They taught you how to run a darn fine blog IMO

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Re: Are we giving our children the means to support themselves?
« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2013, 10:32:04 PM »
So that one day I'll be able to sleep late, run a blog, stay at home all day, play with my kids, take siestas with my wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where we could sip wine and play guitar with my amigos?
;)
ya but do you have a different job?

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Re: Are we giving our children the means to support themselves?
« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2013, 10:36:11 PM »
ya but do you have a different job?

Why would he need a different job
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Re: Are we giving our children the means to support themselves?
« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2013, 10:37:51 PM »
So that one day I'll be able to sleep late, run a blog, stay at home all day, play with my kids, take siestas with my wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where we could sip wine and play guitar with my amigos?
;)
Confused how 16 hour workdays searching for deals turned into this (unless you meant that that was when you started your website and it's since gotten much easier)
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Re: Are we giving our children the means to support themselves?
« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2013, 07:52:28 AM »
You would think just this forum is a 24/76 job.
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Re: Re: Are we giving our children the means to support themselves?
« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2013, 08:41:49 AM »
You would think just this forum is a 24/7 job.

I would think that just churning through his CC's would be a 24/7 job :P
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Re: Re: Are we giving our children the means to support themselves?
« Reply #56 on: January 20, 2013, 08:44:04 AM »
You would think just this forum is a 24/7 job.
You mean 24/6!

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Re: Re: Are we giving our children the means to support themselves?
« Reply #57 on: January 20, 2013, 08:45:09 AM »
You mean 24/6!
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