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Offline ChaimMoskowitz

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Re: Announced vs invited!
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2015, 06:55:53 AM »
I see what you did there.  ::)
How about explaining it to use blind people.  :)
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Re: Announced vs invited!
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2015, 12:09:10 PM »
I see what you did there.  ::)
I actually didn't take the time to look it up. :-[

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Re: Announced vs invited!
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2015, 12:54:30 PM »
I it based on a gemara . Shiva menudim lashamayim ... one of them is someone who is at a bris and doesnt participate in the seuda. ( It also mentions that the ppl of Yerushalaim would not partake in a seuda if there was a person there of which was not of a certain caliber ( cant really remember the exact loshon) ) So to overcome this it became the minhag not to invite ppl as if the invatation would be considered as if he is there and thus passing  up the seuda. As you can see it lacks in logic and halachic bases never-the-less it is a minhag Yisroel

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Re: Announced vs invited!
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2015, 09:50:37 AM »
Rabbi (dr.) ari zivitofsky - who is famous for suing the United states that it should say israel on his son's passport writes a halachik myth busting column for Jewish action.

He writes here that there is no "true" מקור" that Eliyahu really comes to the seder
https://www.ou.org/jewish_action/03/2013/whats-the-truth-about-eliyahu-hanavi-at-the-seder/

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Re: Announced vs invited!
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2015, 12:44:59 PM »
Rabbi (dr.) ari zivitofsky - who is famous for suing the United states that it should say israel on his son's passport writes a halachik myth busting column for Jewish action.

He writes here that there is no "true" מקור" that Eliyahu really comes to the seder
https://www.ou.org/jewish_action/03/2013/whats-the-truth-about-eliyahu-hanavi-at-the-seder/
I heard this story directly from Rav Chaim
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מהר״י אםאד דערציילט פון זיין רבי׳ן, מהד״מ בענעט, אז ווען ער איז
 געזעסן ביים רבינ׳ם םדר-טיש האט דעם רבינ׳ם א קליינע טאכטער געגעבן א
 קוויטש: ״וועד איו דעד עלטערער איד וואם איז ארייגגעקומען און
 אויםגעטדונקען דעם בום של אליהו?!״. -״א טייערער אורח און הייליקער
 מענש איז צו אונז געקומעך, - האט דער פאטער, מהר״מ בענעט
 געענטפערט. - ״ם׳איז א פארדרום, וואםידו האםט פון דעם דערציילט״. און
 די זעלבע נאכט האט דאם קינד נעבעך אויםגעהיויכט איר נשמה...


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Re: Announced vs invited!
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2015, 05:01:38 PM »
I heard this story directly from Rav Chaim
translate for the masses!
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Re: Announced vs invited!
« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2015, 05:04:45 PM »
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Re: Announced vs invited!
« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2015, 05:10:19 PM »
Little girl saw elijah the prophet at the seder, she passed away shortly thereafter.. She shouldnt of said she saw him.. Something like that

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Re: Announced vs invited!
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2015, 05:11:48 PM »
Little girl saw elijah the prophet at the seder, she passed away shortly thereafter.. She shouldnt of said she saw him.. Something like that
Someone what to explain the translation?  :)
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Re: Announced vs invited!
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2015, 05:12:13 PM »
Just did

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Re: Announced vs invited!
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2015, 05:12:25 PM »
translate for the masses!
מהרם בנט's Daughter asked her father who was the old man who came in and drank from the Kos Shel Eliyahu and he answered her that she shouldn't have said what she saw and that night she was nifter (Rav Chaim said that year)
(what's the translation of פארדרוס)

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Re: Announced vs invited!
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2015, 05:14:06 PM »
Someone what to explain the translation?  :)
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Re: Announced vs invited!
« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2015, 05:15:42 PM »
nifter=deceased?
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Re: Announced vs invited!
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2015, 05:20:29 PM »
nifter=deceased?
In this case passed away, we also refer to the deceased as the nifter...

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Re: Announced vs invited!
« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2015, 08:23:11 PM »
(what's the translation of פארדרוס)
Upset, upsetting.

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Re: Announced vs invited!
« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2015, 08:37:40 PM »
Upset, upsetting.

It can also sometimes mean regret.

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Re: Announced vs invited!
« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2015, 09:20:50 PM »
In YIVO Yiddish, I have heard "Es fardrist mir' as I way of saying "I am sorry" or "Excuse me" sort of like Modern Hebrew "tzar li."

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Re: Announced vs invited!
« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2021, 01:14:26 AM »
(what's the translation of פארדרוס)
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