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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #990 on: February 10, 2020, 01:43:13 PM »
False dilemma! They can kill it both ways!

בהמה קטילא קטלו!
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #991 on: February 10, 2020, 02:40:20 PM »
בהמה קטילא קטלו!
It can be killed all over again!

A friend of mine once asked a chef in a high end restaurant about the people who ask for ketchup and he answered "They all ordered their steaks well done anyhow!"
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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #992 on: February 10, 2020, 05:40:55 PM »
It can be killed all over again!

A friend of mine once asked a chef in a high end restaurant about the people who ask for ketchup and he answered "They all ordered their steaks well done anyhow!"

התורה חסה על ממונם של ישראל

They could have put the ketchup on something much cheaper.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #993 on: February 10, 2020, 05:44:18 PM »
התורה חסה על ממונם של ישראל

They could have put the ketchup on something much cheaper.
You don't need to tell that to me.

At one of my daughter's sheva brachos they made some game where everyone got a cheap item and was supposed to say something to the chosson kallah. My oldest son got a ketchup bottle and said "Never put ketchup on your steak-your shver will kill you" (of course I would never do such a thing)
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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #994 on: February 10, 2020, 10:27:35 PM »


You don't need to tell that to me.

At one of my daughter's sheva brachos they made some game where everyone got a cheap item and was supposed to say something to the chosson kallah. My oldest son got a ketchup bottle and said "Never put ketchup on your steak-your shver will kill you" (of course I would never do such a thing)

The only people who have to deny that they'd murder their son in law....
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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #995 on: February 11, 2020, 07:30:34 AM »

The only people who have to deny that they'd murder their son in law....
lol
Over something like this?
ETA: I meant that this would takeh be something it makes sense over.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2020, 10:07:16 AM by aygart »
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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #996 on: February 11, 2020, 09:52:59 AM »

The only people who have to deny that they'd murder their son in law....
well to be fair he said kill, not murder...

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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #997 on: February 11, 2020, 03:31:26 PM »
Or kill himself for taking sucha eidem..

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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #998 on: February 14, 2020, 12:35:11 PM »
So there is this case going on in Connecticut - https://nypost.com/2020/02/13/connecticut-girls-sue-to-ban-transgender-athletes-from-high-school-sports/

3 girls are suing the state school sports commission (CIAC) to prevent two Trans girls (i.e. people who identify as girls, but were born as males) from running in female sports competitions.

Here is a profile of one of the two trans girls - https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2810857-andraya-yearwood-knows-she-has-the-right-to-compete

I've read both sides, and I think I understand them, but at the end of the day, there needs to be an objective way to determine who gets to compete in the Girls division.

I've found this from Judo Canada which I think does a good job of addressing it - https://www.judocanada.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Policy_On_Transgender_Athletes_August_7_2017.pdf

and I'd imagine we'd see similar steps taken in Connecticut.

Personally, I think that the blood test is the ultimately objective test. If your levels of testosterone are above a certain number - whether naturally, or via supplementing, you shouldn't be able to compete in a female division. Regardless of the source and situation.

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Edit - two additional items:
- Both of the trans athletes in question, have not started hormone therapy, or are at the early stages of it
- Having met a few trans people, I can tell you anecdotally that no one is willing to go through the crap that they go through in order to notch a couple of High School trophies. So please spare me your theories about boys entering girls competitions as a joke

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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #999 on: February 14, 2020, 01:14:43 PM »
So there is this case going on in Connecticut - https://nypost.com/2020/02/13/connecticut-girls-sue-to-ban-transgender-athletes-from-high-school-sports/

3 girls are suing the state school sports commission (CIAC) to prevent two Trans girls (i.e. people who identify as girls, but were born as males) from running in female sports competitions.

Here is a profile of one of the two trans girls - https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2810857-andraya-yearwood-knows-she-has-the-right-to-compete

I've read both sides, and I think I understand them, but at the end of the day, there needs to be an objective way to determine who gets to compete in the Girls division.

I've found this from Judo Canada which I think does a good job of addressing it - https://www.judocanada.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Policy_On_Transgender_Athletes_August_7_2017.pdf

and I'd imagine we'd see similar steps taken in Connecticut.

Personally, I think that the blood test is the ultimately objective test. If your levels of testosterone are above a certain number - whether naturally, or via supplementing, you shouldn't be able to compete in a female division. Regardless of the source and situation.

===============
Edit - two additional items:
- Both of the trans athletes in question, have not started hormone therapy, or are at the early stages of it
- Having met a few trans people, I can tell you anecdotally that no one is willing to go through the crap that they go through in order to notch a couple of High School trophies. So please spare me your theories about boys entering girls competitions as a joke
🤢🤢
I think I just lost my appetite!!
Hope it comes back before shabbos
« Last Edit: February 14, 2020, 01:37:36 PM by Jellybelly »

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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #1000 on: February 14, 2020, 01:51:20 PM »
🤢🤢
I think I just lost my appetite!!
Hope it comes back before shabbos
Exactly, let the pig herd figure out their stuff, humans shouldn't give it legitimacy by getting involved.

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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #1001 on: February 14, 2020, 02:32:43 PM »


and I'd imagine we'd see similar steps taken in Connecticut.

Personally, I think that the blood test is the ultimately objective test. If your levels of testosterone are above a certain number - whether naturally, or via supplementing, you shouldn't be able to compete in a female division. Regardless of the source and situation.

Measuring current levels of testosterone does not address the effect of prior levels on muscle and body development.

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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #1002 on: February 14, 2020, 04:28:07 PM »
So there is this case going on in Connecticut - https://nypost.com/2020/02/13/connecticut-girls-sue-to-ban-transgender-athletes-from-high-school-sports/

3 girls are suing the state school sports commission (CIAC) to prevent two Trans girls (i.e. people who identify as girls, but were born as males) from running in female sports competitions.

Here is a profile of one of the two trans girls - https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2810857-andraya-yearwood-knows-she-has-the-right-to-compete

I've read both sides, and I think I understand them, but at the end of the day, there needs to be an objective way to determine who gets to compete in the Girls division.

I've found this from Judo Canada which I think does a good job of addressing it - https://www.judocanada.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Policy_On_Transgender_Athletes_August_7_2017.pdf

and I'd imagine we'd see similar steps taken in Connecticut.

Personally, I think that the blood test is the ultimately objective test. If your levels of testosterone are above a certain number - whether naturally, or via supplementing, you shouldn't be able to compete in a female division. Regardless of the source and situation.

===============
Edit - two additional items:
- Both of the trans athletes in question, have not started hormone therapy, or are at the early stages of it
- Having met a few trans people, I can tell you anecdotally that no one is willing to go through the crap that they go through in order to notch a couple of High School trophies. So please spare me your theories about boys entering girls competitions as a joke

Wow this is an easy one.
All government sanctioned competitions should determine gender based on the birth certificate (until thatís compromised). Allowing men to compete in womenís competition is extremely misogynistic and deprives women of the opportunity to compete for greatness.

Private competition - do whatever they want. You wanna use a motorcycles in a foot race? Doesnít bother me as long as the rules allow it.
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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #1003 on: February 15, 2020, 12:51:28 PM »

Personally, I think that the blood test is the ultimately objective test. If your levels of testosterone are above a certain number - whether naturally, or via supplementing, you shouldn't be able to compete in a female division. Regardless of the source and situation.



What is not "ultimately objective" about the gender you are born as and is represented in every cell in your body?