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Facts
The flu vaccine causes more deaths per year than chicken pox.
The direct injection of RSV immunoglobulin, commonly known as the "RSV vaccine" would prevent 16x more deaths than the flu vaccine does, but is too expensive.
There is a vaccine for the plague, and that is why it is no longer an epidemic.
Ebola is caused by vaccines.
There is a vaccine for autism, but it causes mumps.


Opinions
Vaccines do not contain thimerosal, a known toxin.
If you snuck up on your neighbor's kid and cut open his skull, you would be arrested.  But when brain surgeons do it, and charge hundreds of thousands of dollars, it considered "medicine."
99% of vaccines do not cause autism (HT JJ1000).
Every pedi has seen healthy kids become sick physically & mentally hours after a vax (HT Baryochai)
Vaccines cause cancer, infertility, astma, adhd etc (HT Baryochai)

Poll

Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?

Yes (Shot)
115 (37.8%)
Yes (Nasal Spray)
5 (1.6%)
No
184 (60.5%)

Total Members Voted: 303

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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #135 on: January 14, 2013, 07:13:18 PM »
Yikes it's close to my brain!

That's why many prefer the shot over the spray.
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #136 on: January 14, 2013, 07:13:59 PM »
From CDC:

Can a flu shot give you the flu?

No, a flu shot cannot cause flu illness. The influenza viruses contained in a flu shot are inactivated (killed), which means they cannot cause infection. Flu vaccine manufacturers kill the viruses used in the vaccine during the process of making vaccine, and batches of flu vaccine are tested to make sure they are safe. In randomized, blinded studies, where some people get flu shots and others get salt-water shots, the only differences in symptoms was increased soreness in the arm and redness at the injection site among people who got the flu shot. There were no differences in terms of body aches, fever, cough, runny nose or sore throat.
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #137 on: January 14, 2013, 08:40:18 PM »
Boy you've got loads of bad sources. You can't get the flu from the shot or the spray.
The source was my mother  :-[
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #138 on: January 14, 2013, 08:41:01 PM »
From CDC:

Can a flu shot give you the flu?

No, a flu shot cannot cause flu illness. The influenza viruses contained in a flu shot are inactivated (killed), which means they cannot cause infection. Flu vaccine manufacturers kill the viruses used in the vaccine during the process of making vaccine, and batches of flu vaccine are tested to make sure they are safe. In randomized, blinded studies, where some people get flu shots and others get salt-water shots, the only differences in symptoms was increased soreness in the arm and redness at the injection site among people who got the flu shot. There were no differences in terms of body aches, fever, cough, runny nose or sore throat.
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #139 on: January 14, 2013, 08:47:00 PM »
That's exactly why I get the spray.
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #140 on: January 14, 2013, 08:59:55 PM »
That's exactly why I get the spray.
:-[   Do all doctors carry the spray? Why didn't my doctor recommend the spray?
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #141 on: January 14, 2013, 10:32:54 PM »
:-[   Do all doctors carry the spray? Why didn't my doctor recommend the spray?
I think so. No idea, was he lubavitch?
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #142 on: January 14, 2013, 10:41:20 PM »
Sounds like a quack to me.  Why would it be approved without the proper research?
And find out more about Shingles.

There have been FDA approved vaccines that caused deaths,
so they were later recalled. It takes more years and patients than their studies can provide.

One example (not from a quack site, it's a reg. Gov't site).
Vaccine suspended in 2010  http://www.immunizationinfo.org/vaccines/rotavirus
It was popular to give a 5-in-1 vaccine. Also approved and later suspended: http://www.sundaytimes.lk/080629/News/timesnews0011.html

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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #143 on: January 14, 2013, 10:42:28 PM »
I think so. No idea, was he lubavitch?
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #144 on: January 14, 2013, 11:42:50 PM »
I think so. No idea, was he lubavitch?
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #145 on: January 15, 2013, 01:14:06 AM »
That's exactly why I get the spray.
Everyone can't use the spray (age).  ;)
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #146 on: January 15, 2013, 01:16:06 AM »
Everyone can't use the spray (age).  ;)
I think most here still qualify :D
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #147 on: January 15, 2013, 01:17:30 AM »
I think most here still qualify :D
IIRC it should not be given to very young children (under 2).
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #148 on: January 15, 2013, 01:18:41 AM »
IIRC it should not be given to very young clidren (under 2).
My 18 month old didn't get the flu vaccine either method.
Unless it was included in a previous regimen?
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #149 on: January 15, 2013, 02:16:24 AM »
There's a pediatrician in my neighborhood who doesn't give chickenpox vaccines, and sends patients to get infected from other kids in the neighborhood with chickenpox.

Discuss  ;D

What about the flu vaccine? Would you be able to find this pediatrician's opinion (and why) thanks!

There are 2 sides to the story.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/11/02/chicken-pox-vaccine-creates-shingles-epidemic.aspx
http://www.vaccineinformation.org/varicel/qandavax.asp