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Facts
The flu vaccine causes more deaths per year than chicken pox.
The direct injection of RSV immunoglobulin, commonly known as the "RSV vaccine" would prevent 16x more deaths than the flu vaccine does, but is too expensive.
There is a vaccine for the plague, and that is why it is no longer an epidemic.
Ebola is caused by vaccines.
There is a vaccine for autism, but it causes mumps.


Opinions
Vaccines do not contain thimerosal, a known toxin.
If you snuck up on your neighbor's kid and cut open his skull, you would be arrested.  But when brain surgeons do it, and charge hundreds of thousands of dollars, it considered "medicine."
99% of vaccines do not cause autism (HT JJ1000).
Every pedi has seen healthy kids become sick physically & mentally hours after a vax (HT Baryochai)
Vaccines cause cancer, infertility, astma, adhd etc (HT Baryochai)

Poll

Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?

Yes (Shot)
112 (38.8%)
Yes (Nasal Spray)
5 (1.7%)
No
172 (59.5%)

Total Members Voted: 288

Author Topic: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread  (Read 194255 times)

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1860 on: December 24, 2015, 07:21:35 PM »
Numerous members have tried to show that right here in this thread and all sources they brought were shown to have been misread.

The flu vaccine made me sick this year. Things that are healthy don't make you sick.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1861 on: December 24, 2015, 07:31:09 PM »
The flu vaccine made me sick this year. Things that are healthy don't make you sick.


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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1862 on: February 12, 2016, 12:34:21 AM »

This should not have been delivered to every house in lakewood yesterday. Really disturbing.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1863 on: February 12, 2016, 03:13:08 AM »
These guys think they're saving the world,  and are fanatical about it.  The olam Haemes is going to be a big shock for them. 

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1864 on: February 12, 2016, 12:20:23 PM »
As far the information the claims on this page go they are correct that the CDC very clearly does not blame non-vaxers for pertussis outbreaks. On the other hand they are misrepresenting the sources mentioned in the third column as stating that transmission occurs from recently vaccinated individuals. This is simply untrue as I have written upthread and cannot be ascribe to anything but an intentional misrepresentation of the facts (AKA a lie). Acellular cannnot cause spread of the disease. What the studies are referring to is that vaccinated individual may carry the disease asymptomatically and someone with reduced or no immunity can then catch it. The answer to that is to fully vaccinate everyone.
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used to start a religious discussion.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1865 on: February 12, 2016, 12:24:58 PM »
This should not have been delivered to every house in lakewood yesterday. Really disturbing.
+100. WOW

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1866 on: February 12, 2016, 01:55:12 PM »
Someone has been putting this little pamphlet about the impending end of the world in all the shuls near me. It's in hebrew, with color pictures showing planets colliding, and bunkers being filled by the ruling class with warships, airplanes and other things. Unfortunately I can't find the pamphlet uploaded online anywhere, but this link is about the same specific conspiracy theory, just to give you a taste:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_cataclysm

Vaccines, doomsday - crazy people are crazy, what can I say.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1867 on: March 03, 2016, 08:42:19 PM »
Social media is going crazy again about vaccines since baby bernie has dies from sids.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1869 on: May 02, 2016, 11:44:11 PM »
Got this in the mail today from my insurance company.  Looks like a drug is paying my insurance company to send me advertisements that are masquerading as updates from my insurer that my kid is behind on his vaccines (he isn't btw). 


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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1870 on: May 03, 2016, 09:26:14 AM »
Probably a carryover from the days that drug companies couldnt advertise on TV. So they have a long term deal to advertise through the insurance company. Or someone in the insurance company got a nice payoff to get Pfizer into their materials.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1871 on: May 03, 2016, 10:01:37 AM »
This is the insurance company practicing good business and saving costs, by ensuring that it's customers are properly vaccinated so that they won't get stuck paying for medical costs when the unvaccinated get some expensive and exotic, unnecessary illness.

It's prudent business.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1872 on: May 03, 2016, 11:14:17 AM »
This is the insurance company practicing good business and saving costs, by ensuring that it's customers are properly vaccinated so that they won't get stuck paying for medical costs when the unvaccinated get some expensive and exotic, unnecessary illness.

It's prudent business.

...sponsored by the people who sell the drugs.

Like if Honda would send me a postcard recommending I use fuel additives, sponsored by the folks who make and sell fuel additives.  Wouldn't raise an eyebrow at all, right?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1873 on: May 03, 2016, 11:33:31 AM »
...sponsored by the people who sell the drugs.

Like if Honda would send me a postcard recommending I use fuel additives, sponsored by the folks who make and sell fuel additives.  Wouldn't raise an eyebrow at all, right?
Always a conspiracy.

If the insurance companies got a sponsor to help them with their preventative care efforts, good for them!

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1874 on: May 03, 2016, 11:49:22 AM »
Always a conspiracy.

If the insurance companies got a sponsor to help them with their preventative care efforts, good for them!

There's something between always and never.  Sometimes a conspiracy.