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Facts
The flu vaccine causes more deaths per year than chicken pox.
The direct injection of RSV immunoglobulin, commonly known as the "RSV vaccine" would prevent 16x more deaths than the flu vaccine does, but is too expensive.
There is a vaccine for the plague, and that is why it is no longer an epidemic.
Ebola is caused by vaccines.
There is a vaccine for autism, but it causes mumps.


Opinions
Vaccines do not contain thimerosal, a known toxin.
If you snuck up on your neighbor's kid and cut open his skull, you would be arrested.  But when brain surgeons do it, and charge hundreds of thousands of dollars, it considered "medicine."
99% of vaccines do not cause autism (HT JJ1000).
Every pedi has seen healthy kids become sick physically & mentally hours after a vax (HT Baryochai)
Vaccines cause cancer, infertility, astma, adhd etc (HT Baryochai)

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Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?

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Yes (Nasal Spray)
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No
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Author Topic: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread  (Read 317036 times)

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1880 on: May 17, 2016, 08:23:54 AM »
Chicken pox isnt that bad. Most people over 30 were never vaccinated against it. Dont know what the big deal is. When one of our friends had it our parents brought us over so we would all catch it. Its a one and done in the childhood version and same in the shingles adult version.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1881 on: May 17, 2016, 09:19:33 AM »
Chicken pox isnt that bad. Most people over 30 were never vaccinated against it. Dont know what the big deal is. When one of our friends had it our parents brought us over so we would all catch it. Its a one and done in the childhood version and same in the shingles adult version.

Yes two weeks off school for all the kids+ off work for the parents.

Was it really worth it for that feel good/I'm so smart moment when you declined the vaccine?
Its definitely negligence to not protect ones children from a fully preventable, uncomfortable, painfully illness.
It doesn't matter how good it makes you feel, it's selfish.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1882 on: May 17, 2016, 10:35:48 AM »
Its definitely negligence to not protect ones children from a fully preventable, uncomfortable, painfully illness.
It doesn't matter how good it makes you feel, it's selfish.
Hate to break it to you, but doctors are much more split on this one than something like the Flu vaccine (and obviously more serious things like DTaP, MMR, Polio, etc.). It's not even part of the standard immunization schedule in the UK (it's targeted to those particularly susceptible). My kids were vaccinated for chickenpox, but I'm not about to run around calling parents (or doctors) monsters for not vaccinating their kids - a case that'd be much easier to make for much of the rest of the standard immunization schedule.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1883 on: May 17, 2016, 10:36:22 AM »
Chicken pox isnt that bad. Most people over 30 were never vaccinated against it. Dont know what the big deal is. When one of our friends had it our parents brought us over so we would all catch it. Its a one and done in the childhood version and same in the shingles adult version.
Quote from: CDC link=http://www.cdc.gov/features/preventchickenpox/
Chickenpox can be serious. Before there was a vaccine, chickenpox caused about 4 million people to get sick, more than 10,500 hospitalizations, and about 100 to 150 deaths each year. Most people who had severe chickenpox were healthy beforehand.

My sister in law was hospitalized as a kid when one of the pox developed into cellulitis and almost killed her.

Giving other kids chicken pox from a kid who already has it is a crude and cruel version of vaccinating.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1884 on: May 17, 2016, 01:17:03 PM »
Its definitely negligence to not protect ones children from a fully preventable, uncomfortable, painfully illness.
It doesn't matter how good it makes you feel, it's selfish.

You need to balance that against the risk adjusted costs of the vaccine.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1885 on: May 17, 2016, 02:13:59 PM »
You need to balance that against the risk adjusted costs of the vaccine.
Yup, all "risks" fully accounted for. - gross negligence.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1886 on: May 17, 2016, 02:26:02 PM »
Yup, all "risks" fully accounted for. - gross negligence.
So the whole of the UK is grossly negligent?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1887 on: May 17, 2016, 02:30:47 PM »
So the whole of the UK is grossly negligent?
Maybe. Aren't millions of voters negligent for nominated Trump/Hillary/Sanders (any of those)?
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1888 on: May 17, 2016, 02:37:01 PM »
So the whole of the UK is grossly negligent?
If the child's protection is readily available and declined by the parent, it is negligence.
If it's not available in the UK it's not negligence

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« Reply #1889 on: May 17, 2016, 02:41:16 PM »
Yup, all "risks" fully accounted for. - gross negligence.

Right, so the way you (and the medical establishment) flippantly state that makes me doubt you've actually considered it.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1890 on: July 04, 2016, 09:20:19 AM »
Chicken pox isnt that bad. Most people over 30 were never vaccinated against it. Dont know what the big deal is. When one of our friends had it our parents brought us over so we would all catch it. Its a one and done in the childhood version and same in the shingles adult version.
You do realize that shingles is not "one and done" don't you?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1891 on: July 04, 2016, 10:04:48 AM »
You do realize that shingles is not "one and done" don't you?

What do you mean? I had shingles. Lasted a week and half or so. I was under impression that means I can't get it again.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1893 on: August 26, 2016, 06:40:05 PM »
US judge denies injunction request against law requiring California school children to be vaccinated - Union-Tribune https://t.co/YjJnqdEz3j

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