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Facts
The flu vaccine causes more deaths per year than chicken pox.
The direct injection of RSV immunoglobulin, commonly known as the "RSV vaccine" would prevent 16x more deaths than the flu vaccine does, but is too expensive.
There is a vaccine for the plague, and that is why it is no longer an epidemic.
Ebola is caused by vaccines.
There is a vaccine for autism, but it causes mumps.


Opinions
Vaccines do not contain thimerosal, a known toxin.
If you snuck up on your neighbor's kid and cut open his skull, you would be arrested.  But when brain surgeons do it, and charge hundreds of thousands of dollars, it considered "medicine."
99% of vaccines do not cause autism (HT JJ1000).
Every pedi has seen healthy kids become sick physically & mentally hours after a vax (HT Baryochai)
Vaccines cause cancer, infertility, astma, adhd etc (HT Baryochai)

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Yes (Nasal Spray)
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Author Topic: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread  (Read 190240 times)

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2070 on: April 12, 2018, 02:55:31 PM »
The earth is not round.
It is an ellipsoid.

It is flat.  Anyone who tells you otherwise is part of a vast conspiracy.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2071 on: April 12, 2018, 02:56:57 PM »
It is flat.  Anyone who tells you otherwise was vaccinated.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2073 on: May 09, 2018, 11:37:51 AM »
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/5/7/17314716/lyme-disease-vaccine-history-effectiveness

Actually, if a bazillion vaccines are routine despite the anti-vaxxers, and this one is not, it should tell you something about this one.

Most ppl get vaccines--why wouldn't they get this one if their doctor gave it right along with the flu vaccine?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2074 on: May 09, 2018, 12:30:26 PM »
Actually, if a bazillion vaccines are routine despite the anti-vaxxers, and this one is not, it should tell you something about this one.

Most ppl get vaccines--why wouldn't they get this one if their doctor gave it right along with the flu vaccine?
Did you read the article?  This vaccine needs to be administered in three separate doses all over the age of 15.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2075 on: May 09, 2018, 01:38:13 PM »
Did you read the article?  This vaccine needs to be administered in three separate doses all over the age of 15.

Ok, so then the reason is that it's annoying?  So not because of anti-vaxxers?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2076 on: May 09, 2018, 08:04:43 PM »
It wasn't covered by all insurance. Means it didn't pass the cost benefit analysis.
The risks of infection were not costly enough to justify the vaccines.
For the same reason it want popular enough to make economic sense to the manufacturer

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2077 on: May 12, 2018, 10:45:59 PM »
http://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2018/05/new-jersey-residents-may-have-once-again-been-exposed-to-measles.html

Thinking..
 I hope no crazy anti vaxxers get the disease. How sad it would be if someons kid actually gets hurt CV due to parental insanity. Terrible.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2078 on: June 10, 2018, 11:51:14 AM »
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/spotlights/reported-flu-children-deaths.htm

The CDC is reporting an additional pediatric flu-related death this week, bringing the total number this season to 172. This number exceeds the 2012-2013 season, which previously set the record for the highest number of flu-related deaths in children reported during a single flu season (excluding pandemics). Approximately 80% of these deaths occurred in children who had not received a flu vaccination this season.
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Data this season is similar to what has been previously reported, including in a recent CDC study published in the journal Pediatrics showing that half of flu-related deaths in children from 2010 to 2016 occurred in otherwise healthy children, only 22% of whom were fully vaccinated. The same study also showed antiviral treatment was only given in about half of all pediatric flu deaths. Nearly two-thirds of children died within seven days of developing symptoms. Over one-third died at home or in the emergency department prior to hospital admission.

While flu vaccine can vary in how well it works each season, a CDC study published in Pediatrics in 2017 showed that flu vaccination can be life-saving for children. The study, which looked at data from four flu seasons between 2010 and 2014, found that flu vaccination reduced the risk of flu-associated death by half (51 percent) among children with underlying high-risk medical conditions and by nearly two-thirds (65 percent) among otherwise healthy children.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2080 on: June 18, 2018, 08:10:42 PM »
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2081 on: June 18, 2018, 08:29:25 PM »

What were the 8?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2083 on: June 19, 2018, 09:32:16 AM »
I am trying to figure that out. He links to this which discusses 11
http://pro-decizii-informate.ro/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/John-and-Sonja-Mckinlay-Questionable-contribution-of-medical-measures-to-the-decline-of-mortality-1977.pdf

Link is blocked. How many of the 11 were due to vaccines, and how many due to running water and sterilizing medical equipment and pasteurizing milk?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2084 on: June 19, 2018, 09:36:20 AM »
Link is blocked. How many of the 11 were due to vaccines, and how many due to running water and sterilizing medical equipment and pasteurizing milk?
People washing their hands is probably a big one too. But I'd guess antibiotics (Penicillin) is the biggest of them all.
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