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Facts
The flu vaccine causes more deaths per year than chicken pox.
The direct injection of RSV immunoglobulin, commonly known as the "RSV vaccine" would prevent 16x more deaths than the flu vaccine does, but is too expensive.
There is a vaccine for the plague, and that is why it is no longer an epidemic.
Ebola is caused by vaccines.
There is a vaccine for autism, but it causes mumps.


Opinions
Vaccines do not contain thimerosal, a known toxin.
If you snuck up on your neighbor's kid and cut open his skull, you would be arrested.  But when brain surgeons do it, and charge hundreds of thousands of dollars, it considered "medicine."
99% of vaccines do not cause autism (HT JJ1000).
Every pedi has seen healthy kids become sick physically & mentally hours after a vax (HT Baryochai)
Vaccines cause cancer, infertility, astma, adhd etc (HT Baryochai)

Poll

Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?

Yes (Shot)
115 (37.7%)
Yes (Nasal Spray)
5 (1.6%)
No
185 (60.7%)

Total Members Voted: 304

Author Topic: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread  (Read 257584 times)

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2595 on: May 01, 2019, 04:40:24 PM »
This whole thread should be deleted. It is sad that one of the leaders of our times gets bashed by a couple of people on here. Spewing your hate towards a Gadol on such a public forum is disgusting.

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This is the classic case of throwing out the baby with the bath water (even if there is some human excrement in the water it is a bit drastic).
There is lots of useful and respectful conversation in this thread.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2596 on: May 01, 2019, 04:50:59 PM »
Question - yes
Bash -No

I'm not bashing him . But I'm disagreeing with anyone who says he just has personal opinions on vaccination.

First off he is very vocal and very public
Second off a gadol hador doesn't merely have opinions, people follow it as halacha and guidance.

I'm sure he's been quoted by anti vaxxers as support for it and as halachik backup

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2597 on: May 01, 2019, 10:51:52 PM »
For this that are interested in some crazy stuff vaccine chat... LOL
 
https://chat.whatsapp.com/DO879pd8nyQ0R5CCt91wZr
This may not be good for my middos, but I feel like I'm about to put some sound absorption panels in the echo chamber

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2598 on: May 02, 2019, 09:15:06 AM »
BeMakom SheYesh Chillul Hashem Ein Cholkin Kavod LaRav.

Literal definition

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2599 on: May 02, 2019, 12:38:22 PM »
BeMakom SheYesh Chillul Hashem Ein Cholkin Kavod LaRav.

Literal definition
And you get to define when that is?
"JS [is] a fetid cesspool of unvarnished linguistic manure, with lots of useless drivel and post-padding." -Moishebatchy

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2600 on: May 02, 2019, 12:41:01 PM »
I'm not disagreeing with him etc.. it's dangerous for him to voice his personal opinions. People do not differentiate.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2601 on: May 02, 2019, 07:41:54 PM »

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2602 on: May 02, 2019, 08:05:08 PM »

Don't know who he is. An expert in infectious diseases?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2603 on: May 03, 2019, 12:14:07 AM »
Don't know who he is. An expert in infectious diseases?
Nope. Just a run of the mill anti-vaxxer. Google him.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2604 on: May 03, 2019, 03:07:09 AM »
I stopped at 48 seconds in.  "In the fifties doctors recommended measles parties."

In the fifties there were no seat belt laws.  In the 1800's mercury was prescribed for illness.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2605 on: May 03, 2019, 10:36:38 AM »
I stopped at 48 seconds in.  "In the fifties doctors recommended measles parties."

In the fifties there were no seat belt laws.  In the 1800's mercury was prescribed for illness.

He also completely fails to talk about "herd immunity." Obviously he doesn't believe in it because herd immunity doesn't work in anti-vax circles.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2606 on: May 05, 2019, 12:39:23 AM »
He makes the assertion that the death rate of measles in modern civilized, societies is less than the death rate of measles in unsanitary, backwards countries like Africa.  Although this may sound reasonable, this is not fact.  There hasn't been enough cases of measles for the numbers to be statistically significant. 
There have been people hospitalized during this recent outbreak, but all B"H have survived.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2607 on: May 05, 2019, 04:07:27 PM »
He makes the assertion that the death rate of measles in modern civilized, societies is less than the death rate of measles in unsanitary, backwards countries like Africa.  Although this may sound reasonable, this is not fact.  There hasn't been enough cases of measles for the numbers to be statistically significant. 
There have been people hospitalized during this recent outbreak, but all B"H have survived.

Two in Israel may have suffered permanent brain damage.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-sounds-alarm-on-measles-after-el-al-flight-attendant-boy-slip-into-comas/

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