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Facts
The flu vaccine causes more deaths per year than chicken pox.
The direct injection of RSV immunoglobulin, commonly known as the "RSV vaccine" would prevent 16x more deaths than the flu vaccine does, but is too expensive.
There is a vaccine for the plague, and that is why it is no longer an epidemic.
Ebola is caused by vaccines.
There is a vaccine for autism, but it causes mumps.


Opinions
Vaccines do not contain thimerosal, a known toxin.
If you snuck up on your neighbor's kid and cut open his skull, you would be arrested.  But when brain surgeons do it, and charge hundreds of thousands of dollars, it considered "medicine."
99% of vaccines do not cause autism (HT JJ1000).
Every pedi has seen healthy kids become sick physically & mentally hours after a vax (HT Baryochai)
Vaccines cause cancer, infertility, astma, adhd etc (HT Baryochai)

Poll

Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?

Yes (Shot)
122 (37.4%)
Yes (Nasal Spray)
5 (1.5%)
No
199 (61%)

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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #300 on: November 11, 2013, 02:05:15 AM »
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #301 on: November 11, 2013, 03:39:53 AM »
Prominently displayed right in front of the cash registers, in Eichlers of BP.

This is what frum moms are reading...


Is it wrong to want to make an informed decision about vaccines?

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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #302 on: November 11, 2013, 07:31:38 AM »
Is it wrong to want to make an informed decision about vaccines?
I didn't read the book, but dis it make for an informed it a misinformed decision?

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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #303 on: November 11, 2013, 07:43:28 AM »
"Dr. Eisenstein, MD, JD, MPH is the Founder and Medical Director of Homefirst Health Services. Homefirst provides a full range of family healthcare services in Chicago, with four medical centers. Since 1973, Homefirst doctors have delivered over 15,000 babies at home -- most of whom have never been vaccinated -- serving more than 75,000 parents, grandparents, and children. "
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #304 on: November 11, 2013, 07:47:54 AM »
It's just natural selection
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #305 on: November 11, 2013, 07:53:26 AM »
"Dr. Eisenstein, MD, JD, MPH is the Founder and Medical Director of Homefirst Health Services. Homefirst provides a full range of family healthcare services in Chicago, with four medical centers. Since 1973, Homefirst doctors have delivered over 15,000 babies at home -- most of whom have never been vaccinated -- serving more than 75,000 parents, grandparents, and children. "
...well he's an M.D.so MUST know what he's talking about...

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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #306 on: November 11, 2013, 08:06:08 AM »
All it takes is for that parent to see their kid with any preventable disease (chickenpox, measeles, e.t.c) and they will have themselves to blame for not vaccinating. To see your kid in pain knowing you could have prevented it......

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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #307 on: November 11, 2013, 08:18:09 AM »
All it takes is for that parent to see their kid with any preventable disease (chickenpox, measeles, e.t.c) and they will have themselves to blame for not vaccinating. To see your kid in pain knowing you could have prevented it......
Never mind the numerous horrific mumps outbreaks in jewish communities which may leave many couples childless R"L.  With noone to blame but their vile parents.
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #308 on: November 11, 2013, 08:20:17 AM »
It's just natural selection
Unfortunately the way herd immunization works relies on everyone getting immunized.  Vaccines aren't perfect for everyone so you also need the herd to stamp it out.
Otherwise we're all vulnerable.

Problem is we're too far removed from the The 1918 Flu Pandemic.
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #309 on: November 11, 2013, 08:50:32 AM »
Unfortunately the way herd immunization works relies on everyone getting immunized.  Vaccines aren't perfect for everyone so you also need the herd to stamp it out.
Otherwise we're all vulnerable.

Problem is we're too far removed from the The 1918 Flu Pandemic.
So we should just pass a law forcing all those who don't want to vaccinate into quarantine together. After a few years, problem solves itself...
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #310 on: November 11, 2013, 09:13:28 AM »
So we should just pass a law forcing all those who don't want to vaccinate into quarantine together. After a few years, problem solves itself...
I won't say what that sounded like...

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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #311 on: November 11, 2013, 09:18:37 AM »
I won't say what that sounded like...
I hear. The difference is these people are rodfim and it's mutar lharog biyadayim. And I'm not even saying do that, just that let their own stupidity solve their problem
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #312 on: November 11, 2013, 09:20:57 AM »
If someone never gets the flu should they still get vaccinated?
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #313 on: November 11, 2013, 09:27:11 AM »
If you 'never get the flu' it only means that your body isn't affected by it, but you can still carry and spread it to others.

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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #314 on: November 11, 2013, 09:30:49 AM »
If someone never gets the flu should they still get vaccinated?
there is no reason to assume that you are immune.
If you have very little contact with other human beings and kids we'll give you a pass.;)

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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #315 on: November 11, 2013, 09:35:10 AM »
there is no reason to assume that you are immune.
If you have very little contact with other human beings and kids we'll give you a pass.;)
I am not immune. I am the only one in my family that does not get the shot. If I get the shot and then get the flu you know I will have to blame the shot.  :P
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #316 on: November 11, 2013, 10:49:24 AM »
Don't really understand why anyone gets the shot over the mist.
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #317 on: November 11, 2013, 11:05:21 AM »
Don't really understand why anyone gets the shot over the mist.
They must be really old or young...

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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #318 on: November 11, 2013, 11:09:54 AM »
They must be really old or young...
My 2 year old got the mist.
Just how young are we talking :D
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Re: Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?
« Reply #319 on: November 11, 2013, 11:18:35 AM »
Don't really understand why anyone gets the shot over the mist.
They dont give it to pregnant women and babies because it is a live virus.