Vaccine Discussion Master Thread

[stbaum]

Anybody seen the PEACH publication that came out this week? It was distributed all over Passaic, Lakewood, some of Monsey and some of BP. Thoughts?

[HighOctane]

Anybody seen the PEACH publication that came out this week? It was distributed all over Passaic, Lakewood, some of Monsey and some of BP. Thoughts?

Yeh. Was pretty cool actually. I especially liked the well done bibliography.

[jaywhy]

Can someone post a link?

[stbaum]

There is no online publication. This is the cover and the letter from the editor.

[churnbabychurn]

Anybody seen the PEACH publication that came out this week? It was distributed all over Passaic, Lakewood, some of Monsey and some of BP. Thoughts?

I posted about it up thread, (could of gotten lost in the nonsense).

Its the extreme anti immunization group using desperate "missionary style" techniques to legitimize their extreme beliefs.
There is a clear and present danger of them recruiting more innocent people into their extreme group. This whole campaign is the height of selfishness, truly disgusting.

They have a selfish need to make their extreme beliefs more widespread, in order to be able to continue to defy the recommendations of the entire medical community.

Due to recent outbreaks of serious life threatening diseases like pertussis and measles in the frum community, (-thanks to the peaches of the world-), many private institutions are requiring that all children participating heed the life saving recommendation of the entire modern medical community. The peaches are fighting this by trying to mainstream their views. 

[jaywhy]

There is no online publication. This is the cover and the letter from the editor.

Thanks. Can you post the article?

[churnbabychurn]

Thanks. Can you post the article?

IIRC There was a sidebar comparing the anti vaccination crowd to the Jews in the nazi era 
Please CMIIW but I thats what I recall from scanning through; my reflexes threw it in the trash!

[stbaum]

To be clear I am completely vaccinated as is my 2.5 yr old daughter. Completely up to date. I really enjoyed this publication and read it cover to cover. I'm not pro vaccines and certainly not anti vaccines. I'm pro education.
I looked for any mention of this by searching for "peach" in this thread but came up empty

[churnbabychurn]

To be clear I am completely vaccinated as is my 2.5 yr old daughter. Completely up to date. I really enjoyed this publication and read it cover to cover. I'm not pro vaccines and certainly not anti vaccines. I'm pro education.
I looked for any mention of this by searching for "peach" in this thread but came up empty

Please don't expect "education" from a "peach mom" flyer. Either get a proper education, or at minimum consult with someone who is educated. Realize that these peach moms have an interest in brainwashing the uneducated with imagined stories about "vaccine injuries"etc. They are trying to legitimize themselves.

[stbaum]

Please don't expect "education" from a "peach mom" flyer. Either get a proper education, or at minimum consult with someone who is educated. Realize that these peach moms have an interest in brainwashing the uneducated with imagined stories about "vaccine injuries"etc. They are trying to legitimize themselves.

Unfortunately it seems most medical professionals are biased. Please post easy to read/understand links of "proper research@ ie: unbiased.

[churnbabychurn]

Unfortunately it seems most medical professionals are biased. Please post easy to read/understand links of "proper research@ ie: unbiased.

biased by what?!

[Chaikel]

Unfortunately it seems most medical professionals are biased. Please post easy to read/understand links of "proper research@ ie: unbiased.

Do you believe your primary care giver is biased?

[Achas Veachas]

Unfortunately it seems most medical professionals are biased. Please post easy to read/understand links of "proper research@ ie: unbiased.

The problem is that most research is NOT easy to read, the links have all been posted upthread but your average layman won't make heads or tails between them and all the pseudo-research out there. This is why you have to find a doctor you trust and have him explain it to you...

And no, doctors are no more biased than the naturalists who make millions off playing on the fears of the ignorant masses...

[YankyDoodle]

Here is something very "easy to read":
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_MED_POLIO_EMERGENCY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-05-05-07-18-35

[Barryg]

Here is something very "easy to read":
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_MED_POLIO_EMERGENCY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-05-05-07-18-35

Welcome back!

[YankyDoodle]

Welcome back!

Thanks, just popped in because I heard there was a physician in the house. Gonna disappear for a couple more weeks. Happy to see the madness with [redacted  ] has ended.

[Freddie]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/06/health/world-health-organization-polio-health-emergency.html?_r=0

[Achas Veachas]

Guess what? Vaccines don't cause cancer, they get rid of it!

http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/health/259155541.html

[churnbabychurn]

Guess what? Vaccines don't cause cancer, they get rid of it!

http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/health/259155541.html

Its just a conspiracy. doctors are just crazy brainwashed people who know and do nothing but sell meds for big pharma. Bla bla bla.

[Yehuda57]

Guess what? Vaccines don't cause cancer, they get rid of it!

http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/health/259155541.html

Exactly the opposite. Yes, they used the same strain as the vaccine, but, if anything, the vaccine would prevent that treatment from working.

"Most people have been inoculated with the vaccine, rendering it vulnerable to their immune systems. But patients with multiple myeloma often have suppressed immune systems, which can allow the virus to do its work.

"...Once the vaccine has been delivered, the body’s immune system will recognize it and attack it. Russell said breaking down the immune system before the treatment will be part of another upcoming clinical trial."

So, as it pertains to this conversation, one should not vaccinate against measles, because if G-d forbid the child later in life suffers from multiple myeloma, there is a currently untested/unproven treatment that may have a tiny chance of being slightly slowed down by the vaccine - due to its effectiveness.