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Facts
The flu vaccine causes more deaths per year than chicken pox.
The direct injection of RSV immunoglobulin, commonly known as the "RSV vaccine" would prevent 16x more deaths than the flu vaccine does, but is too expensive.
There is a vaccine for the plague, and that is why it is no longer an epidemic.
Ebola is caused by vaccines.
There is a vaccine for autism, but it causes mumps.


Opinions
Vaccines do not contain thimerosal, a known toxin.
If you snuck up on your neighbor's kid and cut open his skull, you would be arrested.  But when brain surgeons do it, and charge hundreds of thousands of dollars, it considered "medicine."
99% of vaccines do not cause autism (HT JJ1000).
Every pedi has seen healthy kids become sick physically & mentally hours after a vax (HT Baryochai)
Vaccines cause cancer, infertility, astma, adhd etc (HT Baryochai)

Poll

Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?

Yes (Shot)
111 (38.8%)
Yes (Nasal Spray)
5 (1.7%)
No
170 (59.4%)

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Author Topic: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread  (Read 179391 times)

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1710 on: September 02, 2015, 07:16:49 PM »
I am following this thread and just asking questions to learn. One thing I am good at is spotting nutcases. Your answer provided the final piece of information I needed.
You're good at spotting nut cases and it took until now?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1711 on: September 02, 2015, 07:27:00 PM »
Western medicine has its  benefits emergencies,  cuts, broken bones cardiac arrest

In chronic disease they have very limited value
You need to read up on your history. Cuts and broken bones are where medicine has advanced the least. In the times of the gemoro they already set and splinted broken bones. The primary advances of modern medicine have been in infectious and chronic diseases
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1712 on: September 02, 2015, 08:35:41 PM »
You're good at spotting nut cases and it took until now?
I believe in giving someone enough rope and ...
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1713 on: September 03, 2015, 07:57:41 AM »
Is this thread for the flu vaccine or vaccinations for children?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1714 on: September 03, 2015, 09:07:14 AM »
@baryochai Was 9/11 an inside job?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1715 on: September 03, 2015, 09:11:37 AM »
The poll shows, majority did not buy the flu vax hype
Last time I got the shot was Oct 18, 1987. The very next day the stock market crashed. Never again for me. I LEARNED MY LESSON. I just don't understand why some can't accept the facts when they are starring them right in the face.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1716 on: September 03, 2015, 09:12:39 AM »
@baryochai Was 9/11 an inside job?
I can't say for sure, but Big Pharm made a lot of money off of all those sick people after.

Probably more people got asthma than vaccines have made in the past decade, so it would make sense.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1717 on: September 03, 2015, 10:11:57 AM »
Market crashed because you only got 1 shot , take 2 it will go up :P
You just don't get it do you? It would have went down twice as much.  >:(

Your a JJ wannabe. It has nothing to do with DDF so figure that one out.  :)
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1718 on: September 03, 2015, 10:47:36 AM »
You just don't get it do you? It would have went down twice as much.  >:(

Your a JJ wannabe. It has nothing to do with DDF so figure that one out.  :)
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1719 on: September 03, 2015, 11:13:58 AM »
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/11/books/review-bad-faith-a-dr-paul-a-offit-book-on-religion-and-modern-medicine.html?_r=0

Unfortunately, Dr. Offit’s book is more a fervent attack job than an earnest attempt to understand people with different, if misguided views. His book is thinly sourced and poorly researched, seeming at times as if he began with a conclusion and then went in search of evidence.
While your views are purely based upon your conclusions from the evidence? ::) ??? :o

Meanwhile every single reason not to vaccinate that you have posted has been debunked simply by reading what you were quoting from without needing to even look further. You have not yet explained even one of these and just called me a liar. Meanwhile I have made no claims other that showing that everything you are bringing is inaccurate and mizuyaf mitocho (an obvious forgery-sort of).

Every single point you have made until now has been shown from the source itself to have nothing to do with what he claimed it to be saying and you have not explained why I am wrong about any of them. You have simply ignored any argument anyone made against your numbers. Now you are "threatening" to ignore me. What have you been doing to any mention of facts until now? So you will continue ignoring the facts?   ::)
  • Note how the way his point from the UNESCO numbers was debunked was ignored
  • Note how the way the connection to GB was debunked is ignored
  • Note how the way the connection to infant deaths was debunked is ignored
  • Note how he claims I fabricated things but has not yet shown even one thing which I fabricated while I have already shown a few and will show another in the next post.
I do not need your responses and do not expect you to end up feeling that vaccines are great. My point is that no one should be fooled by your nonsense. Ignore me if you wish.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1720 on: September 03, 2015, 11:51:27 AM »
Last time I got the shot was Oct 18, 1987. The very next day the stock market crashed. Never again for me. I LEARNED MY LESSON. I just don't understand why some can't accept the facts when they are starring them right in the face.
So it was your flu shot that did it? I airways thought it was because my parents let me look at a mirror that day before my first tooth came in...
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1721 on: September 03, 2015, 12:33:43 PM »
Fill me in?
Would "kool-aid" give it away?
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1722 on: September 03, 2015, 12:46:39 PM »
Would "kool-aid" give it away?
Nope I am not sure what you are referring to? One of my cynical/sarcastic comments or something real.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1723 on: September 03, 2015, 12:48:30 PM »
Nope I am not sure what you are referring to? One of my cynical/sarcastic comments or something real.
It has nothing to do with you. There was another JJ that spewed crap that many people died from.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1724 on: September 04, 2015, 03:45:56 PM »
Might be use-full
Some Dr' prick & vaccinate that According to the city it's worthless
For Ex:
Hip B <6 weeks is worthless.....
after 12 months it's valid as 2 shot's
recommended to give At 2,4, and 12 months
Even though 4 shot's are required required since after 12/M is valid as 2 shot's.....