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Facts
The flu vaccine causes more deaths per year than chicken pox.
The direct injection of RSV immunoglobulin, commonly known as the "RSV vaccine" would prevent 16x more deaths than the flu vaccine does, but is too expensive.
There is a vaccine for the plague, and that is why it is no longer an epidemic.
Ebola is caused by vaccines.
There is a vaccine for autism, but it causes mumps.


Opinions
Vaccines do not contain thimerosal, a known toxin.
If you snuck up on your neighbor's kid and cut open his skull, you would be arrested.  But when brain surgeons do it, and charge hundreds of thousands of dollars, it considered "medicine."
99% of vaccines do not cause autism (HT JJ1000).
Every pedi has seen healthy kids become sick physically & mentally hours after a vax (HT Baryochai)
Vaccines cause cancer, infertility, astma, adhd etc (HT Baryochai)

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Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?

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Yes (Nasal Spray)
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No
196 (60.9%)

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Author Topic: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread  (Read 550810 times)

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1740 on: September 09, 2015, 08:00:37 PM »
BS
What's BS? That he died? That meningitis can be prevented? That the pediatrician who was negligent about vaccinating his patient is liable?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1741 on: September 09, 2015, 08:05:27 PM »
And they don't give any vaccines?
It's just a list of doctors that don't vaccinate, not his friends.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1742 on: September 09, 2015, 08:16:30 PM »
And they don't give any vaccines?
The Lakewood one will give if you ask, but he's totally OK with not giving. Especially if the parent says that they "did research".

Flu shots he's against -more economical for the whole family to come back w the flu..

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1743 on: September 09, 2015, 08:19:22 PM »
Eli Eilenberg MD from Lakewood is 1 of my friends, Rafael Kellman MD NYC Lawrance Palevsky NYC so are many other MDs
Eilenberg really doesn't make any sense. If he agrees with all your nonsense how in the world does he go ahead and vaccinate his patients?  He should be prosecuted for murder. Yes he vaccinates his patients although he might not require them to.
If you focus on being a boss, you will never be a leader. Leaders lead people to growth and improvement.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1744 on: September 09, 2015, 08:27:37 PM »
Either way a doctor could aurguably be prosecuted..
If he knows of the danger of unprotected babies and the safety of vaccines. How can he not educate his patients? Isn't that the job??
« Last Edit: September 09, 2015, 08:30:38 PM by churnbabychurn »

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1745 on: September 09, 2015, 09:22:51 PM »
Maybe that's why DR Eilenberg's  patients are the healthiest kids on the block.
BS
Actually the Lakewood papers refused to print the  R' Chaim Kanievsky's response
BS
Maybe you should post it here
BTW in NY average Doctor gets paid 170 per well visit (I bought a ruler & scale for less  ::) ) & 25 for every needle they stick into your baby. (Besides cost of vaccine itself)

0 to 12 Months 7 visits 14 needles over $1500.  4 Million Newborns times $1500 = 6 Billion dollars to pediatricians
Do you understand why shots are SO IMPORTANT?
I have no clue about the numbers but if past performance is any indicator then..
BS
Eli Eilenberg MD from Lakewood is 1 of my friends, Rafael Kellman MD NYC Lawrance Palevsky NYC so are many other MDs
BS
Quote from: Baryochai
{insert the quote from any post of his here}
BS
Just look back how each and every claim he made was shown from his own source to be either irrelevant or to be showing the opposite of what he attributed to it.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1746 on: September 09, 2015, 09:28:32 PM »
The Lakewood one will give if you ask, but he's totally OK with not giving. Especially if the parent says that they "did research".

Flu shots he's against -more economical for the whole family to come back w the flu..

Also a very economical way to get a whole slew of patients who made up their mind already based on their phony research. All these families will go to the one which will allow them to keep to their mishugasin.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1747 on: September 09, 2015, 09:30:39 PM »
4 young uncles & 3 cousins, chemo made MD rich, 6 where never cured 1survived
I heard doing nothing has a much higher survival rate than 14%


Can't believe you weren't able to convince your relatives not to vax though
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1748 on: September 09, 2015, 09:53:41 PM »
I mean, just think about it, most people never took a chemo session in their life and they're fine and healthy, yet amongst people who do take chemo the mortality rate is sky high... ::)

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1749 on: September 09, 2015, 09:58:46 PM »
4 young uncles & 3 cousins, chemo made MD rich, 6 where never cured 1survived
And there you have it-the reason for the hatred of doctors and the medical community.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1750 on: September 09, 2015, 09:59:55 PM »
Did convince a few B"H, they are grateful
Think that one went over your head. He was sarcastically implying that your relatives got cancer from vaccines.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1751 on: September 09, 2015, 10:01:18 PM »
Think that one went over your head.
Like pretty much everything else in this thread...

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1752 on: September 09, 2015, 10:02:31 PM »
Been a long time since I ventured in here. Looks as dumb as ever.
Anyone going to miss it if I lock it?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1753 on: September 09, 2015, 10:06:13 PM »
Been a long time since I ventured in here. Looks as dumb as ever.
Anyone going to miss it if I lock it?
Certainly not.  But why bring another headache on yourself arguing with everyone about your moderating rules. just ignore it like the rest of us should be

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1754 on: September 09, 2015, 10:19:37 PM »
Been a long time since I ventured in here. Looks as dumb as ever.
Anyone going to miss it if I lock it?

Go back till before the current idiot and there is a wonderful conversation. Every few months someone new pops up on here with no other posts on the forum and starts spewing incomprehensible babble. But in between there are useful conversations.

You've deleted pages at a time before, that might do the trick now. It will also give Aygart a few minutes to breathe. He'd probably like that.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1755 on: September 09, 2015, 10:36:16 PM »
Been a long time since I ventured in here. Looks as dumb as ever.
Anyone going to miss it if I lock it?

I'll miss it.  Also, it just encourages them because they say they're being silenced.

Also, buying a house can be thousands of dollars in brokerage fees.  Ever wonder why having a house is so important?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1756 on: September 09, 2015, 10:59:16 PM »
I'll miss it.  Also, it just encourages them because they say they're being silenced.

Also, buying a house can be thousands of dollars in brokerage fees.  Ever wonder why having a house is so important?

I saved hundreds of dollars on car insurance by switching to ... a bicycle.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1757 on: September 09, 2015, 11:16:56 PM »
Definitely the most repetitive thread ever.
I can't imagine how anything new can ever be posted here.

I even believe this very conversation about locking it happened a few times!! Lol

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1758 on: September 09, 2015, 11:19:58 PM »
Definitely the most repetitive thread ever.
I can't imagine how anything new can ever be posted here.

I even believe this very conversation about locking it happened a few times!! Lol

Maybe Rechnitz can sponsor a program that pays people to suggest vaccines for older singles. 

(Still too repetitive?)

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1759 on: September 09, 2015, 11:24:40 PM »
Maybe Rechnitz can sponsor a program that pays people to suggest vaccines for older shingles

(Still too repetitive?)

I couldn't resist.